Globalism [Ron Paul]

House.Gov ^ | 16 July 2007 | Ron Paul

[Designer]

"So why didn't Jefferson and Adams guys dooooo anything about it?"

They were going to leave it up to us to take care of it.

In A.D. 2000, or so.

[Paperdoll]

I cannot answer for Ron Paul. I believe he was against our invasion of Iraq. But since we are there, I believe our troops want to complete their mission.

If you look into the record, hear the speeches, and read the articles on Rep. Duncan Hunter, I believe you would have no question in your mind as to how he would govern the country. Log onto his website for a sample: http://www.gohunter08.com Or type his name into search and you will come up with a myriad of Hunter threads.

I like Ron Paul in many ways, but I think we need a dynamic man with military experience to see us through the coming years with the growing threat of Iran, Korea, and now once again, Russia. Not to mention China.

[George W. Bush]

I need to look at Fred Thompson’s Senate votes, but I have my doubts.

Although you know I am a big Friend Of Ron, I do, along with others, look at the rest of the field because all of them, except maybe one, are going to lose the race to be president in 2009. And RP admits he's still a long shot but he is running to win and is doing so much better than he or anyone ever expected. So on a good day, I'm certain we will inaugurate President Paul. Other days, like Ron himself, I recognize how hard it is to thread that needle for anyone. And especially for the Republican nominee in 2008.

Having said that, I've noticed with Fred Thompson that he's made some remarks on the shamnesty and on other matters that indicates a fundamental philosophy that is pretty old-fashioned, that reflects his coming of age in a conservative Southern town in the Fifties and early Sixties. And FDT thinks for himself and has a far greater respect for the voters than those weirdos in the Senate that praise Ted Kennedy at every turn. That includes Bush himself. I'm saying FDT seems to indicate far more conservative fundamental instincts in his life and in office than the others. And, like Ron Paul, he understands being a public servant and his obligation to largely serve and represent the people, not just thumb his nose at them once they were dumb enough to vote for him.

So Fred is very much worth watching. Even for a Friend Of Ron like me. In the end, we should try to support the candidates of our party if at all possible and not just look for some reason to go third-party or just not vote. We need to operate in good faith with others so our party can win. Of course, cooperating to the extent of electing leftwing mayors is asking way too much.

[George W. Bush]

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[Optimist]

>>>>To some extent we are. We are giving them 15 Billion on cash to fight AIDS.

Political Correct B*11$h1+ — hardly to be compared to national security foreign policy issues.

>>>>Also, we now have African Command (AFRICOM) which will fight terrorism there, but more so try to limit China’s influence.

THAT is a national security issue — and undoubtedly RonPaulettes would have a problem with us being involved. But we are not “Nation Building” in the same sense that we are in the ME. Different solutions for different porblems — hopefully, same results for same threats.

[Designer]

Frankly, I’ve had it with globalist presidents. We certainly do not need another one.

Sorry, you'll get one whether you like it or not.

Rhombus, meaning what, exactly?

Do you meant the fix is in for globalists? If so, I agree, even though we all keep hoping otherwise.

In case anyone here misses the subtle differences between candidates, IMO Ron Paul is the only one who might be able to stem the tide of globalism in federal government.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“The well known goal of globalism is one world government. No borders, no sovereignty, multi-culturalism, and no middle class, all to secure the position of the elite for all time.

That’s about as well as I can define globalism.”

In my 53 years, I have come to a few conclusions about the elitists, both in and out of politics:

When an individual or group has a great deal of money, what they crave is POWER, as they already have all the money they will ever need.

Look at Edwards
Look at the Bush’s
Look at Soros
Look at Romney
Look at Hillary. all have money.....all are power hungry....all think they can
“run” the world.

Also, look at multi national corporations like IBM and Hewlett Packard. It’s all about the POWER. Of course, if you can destroy the middle class, you will have more money
along with the power.

Look for a Presidential candidate who craves patriotism over power, and you may have someone worthy of our vote.
Reagan never cared about the power, he cared about and loved America. The only candidates who come close today are Hunter and Thompson. Neither crave power, they care about our country.

[Paperdoll]

Good observations, all.

[dforest]

You know what? I totally agree that Duncan Hunter is the best candidate all around.

[George W. Bush]

Oh he’s right on a lot of issues near and dear to me. It’s where he’s wrong that’ll get you killed.

Maybe you should make a nice graphic or slogan: "Vote Ron if you want to die", "A vote for Ron is a vote for suicide", "Ron Paul, the Suicide Candidate"...

LOL.

[rhombus]

There’s some things that are black and white BUT there are also many, many things that are gray... in my world anyway.

[rhombus]

Do you meant the fix is in for globalists? If so, I agree, even though we all keep hoping otherwise. In case anyone here misses the subtle differences between candidates, IMO Ron Paul is the only one who might be able to stem the tide of globalism in federal government.

No there's no conspiracy "fix" involved. It's just a matter of reading the very obvious tea leaves and looking at 8th grade history. We'll get a Democrat or a Republican. If people on this thread believe everyone out there is a globalist except Ron Paul then you'll get a globalist. Hey if Ron Paul is elected, I'll concede I was wrong just before I buy lots of guns and gasoline and retreat to a mountaintop and wait for the $hit to hit the fan.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“You know what? I totally agree that Duncan Hunter is the best candidate all around.”

Wanna know who the globalists and the MSM REALLY fear??

Duncan Hunter, who is anathema to everything they believe in:

Multiculturalism
Open borders
Giving up our language, culture and sovereignty.

[Paperdoll]

We do need to have a friend in the ME for strategic purposes. Either for oil to keep our economy on an even keel, or for military bases for defense against any threat issued from that part of the world.

Right now Israel is about our only ally there, and we are doing her no good by encouraging her to give up more territory to the Palestinians. Duncan Hunter says Israel should not give up one square inch of land, and I agree with him.

[rhombus]

"So why didn't Jefferson and Adams guys dooooo anything about it?"

They were going to leave it up to us to take care of it. In A.D. 2000, or so.

Well it looks like we are going to leave it up to our kids to do in 2050 or so. Keep paying tribute because it's just toooo hard for us and it's all Bush's fault for screwing it up...whah, whah, whah...

[new cruelty]

All these replys are sooooo scripted.

Pot... meet kettle. Kettle... pot.

[Paperdoll]

>Wanna know who the globalists and the MSM REALLY feat??
Duncan Hunter, who is anathema to everything they believe in.<

Yes, You are right. That is exactly why the MSM gives the man who is actively doing more for the benefit of the country (than any other candidate on either side) practically no publicity. Thank you for pointing out the important differences between the globalists and Rep. Duncan Hunter.

[rhombus]

As for me, I stand with Frost: "Good fences make good neighbors."

Agreed. As for me, I don't believe in waiting for them to come over the fence or think we should cower behind our fence. Unfortunately this sometimes means a strategy of search and destroy which often seems like swatting flies. However we do constrain ourselves from using all the weapons we have and have hopes that others will wipe their own noses. That too is a product of our modern society which you rightly identified as wanting to be loved. I'd also add lots of guilt and hating to see bad things on television to a product of our modern society.

[BlackbirdSST]

You’ve got my vote Dr. Paul. Blackbird.

[dforest]

After today, in which I have found answers to the many questions I have had on various threads, I have decided that I support Hunter.

We need a good coservative, no globalist candidate who also sees our threats in the word as we know it now.

He is the person we need at this time.

See, even changed my tagline. I have not supported anyone until today.