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New analysis counters claims that solar activity is linked to global warming
Guardian (England) ^
| July 11, 2007
| James Randerson
Posted on 07/11/2007 3:40:02 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:42:50 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: calex59
To: liberallarry
How would you explain global warming on Mars and Pluto?
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:49:27 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
(Support the President's Policy in Iraq)
To: liberallarry
Corelation does not prove causation, and the inverse is also true.
Sorry, one study with such limited parameters isn’t all that convincing, despite the control freaks’ desperate attempts to establish a new reality in their favor.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:49:44 AM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
To: liberallarry
“Activity” of what kind? Gross solar radiation? Flares that manage to roil the earth’s magnetosphere?
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:49:46 AM PDT
by
drlevy88
To: liberallarry
But a new analysis of data on the sun's output in the last 25 years of the 20th century has firmly put the notion to rest. The certainty of this statement immediately makes me doubt the veracity of this report.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:49:46 AM PDT
by
rhombus
To: Perdogg
This isn’t completely a joke. There is Martian warming going on right now, as I understand it.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:51:15 AM PDT
by
drlevy88
To: liberallarry
Why? No link to any study. Just news fabricators talking to a couple of their solid sources for GW.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:52:14 AM PDT
by
listenhillary
(Freeze federal spending RIGHT NOW! Maybe in 25 years, we can be out of debt.)
To: calex59
“BS.”
My thoughts as I read were from a Horse instead, but the sentiment is the same.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:52:39 AM PDT
by
rockinqsranch
(Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
To: liberallarry
The article doesn’t say which set of data he’s using. If he’s using the ground weather monitoring stations there’s a problem. The data obtained from those has been called into question. The temp data from satellites is more accurate.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:53:23 AM PDT
by
saganite
(Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
To: Perdogg
I wouldn’t attempt it. Ask those who study climate.
To: ovrtaxt
Read the article more carefully. Solar activity was dismissed long ago as a cause of modern global warming by most of the scientific community. This study was designed to address a very specific objection...and it did.
To: liberallarry
So we have different scientists looking at the same data and coming up with different analyses. One is into the man made global warming all analyzes of raw data can be made to fit ones theory, if you try hard enough.
Does either discuss the physical findings of evidence of periods of cooling and warming in the past in the absence of human activity.
To: Perdogg
How would you explain global warming on Mars and Pluto? Actually, it's Mars and Neptune. But, yes, how do they explain the warming on those planets without solar activity being a factor? Idiots...
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:56:16 AM PDT
by
Spiff
(Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
To: liberallarry
Well, we could rule out human activity, can’t we? It would be somewhat difficult to blame Bush for global warming on Mars or Pluto, correct??
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:56:25 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
(Support the President's Policy in Iraq)
To: liberallarry
Virtually all (circa 98%) global CO2 comes from natural sources -- the biosphere and volcanic emissions. It isn't clear what kinds of cycles the biosphere, especially, is prone to. Warmer earth means more living flora and fauna which, up to a point, begets more CO2. And we can't do a darned thing about this, unless we want to poison much of the world's vegetation and wildlife.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:56:52 AM PDT
by
drlevy88
To: liberallarry
"But a new analysis of data on the sun's output in the last 25 years of the 20th century has firmly put the notion to rest."
Don't you just love it when arrogant people proclaim, "The debate is over!"
Whenever I hear this, it means, they can no longer defend their positions, so they are hoping everyone now accepts whatever is said henceforth.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:56:54 AM PDT
by
moonman
To: liberallarry
Sure, the part of the scientific community who has a vested interest in freaking people out for funding leverage.
Nope, not convincing. There’s too much job security to be gained by these people.
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posted on
07/11/2007 3:57:05 AM PDT
by
ovrtaxt
(The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
To: saganite
These scientists are not idiots (like the general public). They are aware of the weaknesses and strengths of the underlying data. That’s why they’re called professionals.
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