German press slams 'egotistic' Poland and Britain after summit (Uh-oh!)

EUbusiness ^ | 24 June 2007

[Atlantic Bridge]

The conservative candidate of Aznar’s party lost because the vast majority of the Spaniards was simply against any involvement of their country in Iraq.

The reaction on the bombing was only a confirmation of the already existing denial. It never pays out for politicians in countries with democratic elections to ignore the will of their voters. BTW - this is the reason why Merkel i.e. is extremely reluctant concerning Iraq. If she would do something substancial for America there, her gouvernment would be blown into pieces since the German public does not want the German gouvernment to be involved into this issue.

Same thing in Spain. The bombing was simply the trigger that released a wave of a broad disaffection with Aznar because of Iraq. ETA or al Quaida? That was irrelevant.

[varon]

You obviously misunderstood my comment, therefore making your anger directed at me uncalled for.

[wolf78]

The thing is, what guys like vox_PL don't understand: That's how the EU works: Business as usual. As Jerzy Kranz put it: Nice, the square root and the double majority all work. Within the EU it's not the number of votes that really matters but the ability to form alliances. And that's what the brothers Kaczynski need to learn". So in fact, it is much ado about nothing: In the end a compromise is reached which satisfies noone, but that's bearable for everyone. What the EU really is about is:

- Peace: No war in Europe for 60+ years and counting.

- Trade and prosperity: The larger a common market (EU: 500 million), the more competition, also amongst the nations. EU enterprises will move jobs where the tax code and the education system is the most effective.

Not every minor squabble calls for the grand rhetoric.



"Platform shoes or death!"

[caveat emptor]

Germany’s psychopathic lust for power

I think you nailed it. Keep up the good fight.

[caveat emptor]

Read Schumann and the resons why the EU was created.

Do you have any links for that, or more information so I can look it up?

I aways thought they just wanted try to control the Germans, but then got carried away with themselves, and decided to try to neuter the Yanks as well.

[muleskinner]

Poland will be O.K., as long as they don't plant any trees along their roads.

As the French found out, Germans like to march in the shade.

[caveat emptor]

I hear you. My dad fought the Germans through North Africa and Omaha Beach and on to Berlin. I was a child. Here ar a few more for your list:

stuka
88
tiger
buzz bomb

[wolf78]

I think you nailed it. Keep up the good fight.

Which brings us back to the age-old question as to who is worse: the delusional paranoid or his claqueur?

[wolf78]

What's a "HaKaTe"? And what should be untranslatable about "GmbH" (Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung). The literal translation is "Limited Liability Company" or LLC.

[caveat emptor]

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[stefan10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Schuman

Just for the start.

The main point is the historic background of MR Schumann or better the historic background of the region he was born. I grew up in the same region and it is more or less clear or at least understandable that the EU was “founded” by someone from this region.

back to the EU. The goal of the EU was integration to create a better future in terms of peace stability and economic benefits for the people. The goal was a united Europe. The tool were a economic integration at the beginning to create trust and understanding.

The European Coal and Steel Community is the best example for that. The tool was economic but the goal was a political goal.

The Euro is a another example. A lot of germans were very skeptical to give up their symbol of power and success the german mark but now everybody likes the Euro because they see the advantages of a common currency beside the economic advantages for the european companies.

[hershey]

Why not have two houses, a bi-cameral legislature, as in the US, where smaller states have equal voting power, representation, in the senate, but larger states have more representatives in the house? Both houses of congress have to agree to pass legislation. I know this has been suggested on FR before, and doubtless Europe has already considered and rejected the concept, but it would solve a great many problems. And considering Europe’s troubled history, you’d think it would be an obvious choice. Does the fact that it would be modeled on the US bother Europe’s elite? Oh, surely not.

[RusIvan]

We Poles are too weak to have a real power in Europe and we are aware of it, however at the summit we fough to be strong enough to be able to block the power of our enemies together with our traditional friends. And we succeeded.==

“A real power in Europe”? Do you think that Germany and France want the “real power”? They do not have it now? They both the economical superpowers. Is it enough for them?

After all I do not catch a sense why Poland entered in EU if she thinks that it rulled by an enemy?

[Lukasz]

- Peace: No war in Europe for 60+ years and counting.

How long you EUphiles will justify EVRYTHING what is going on in the EU by this one argument?

The thing is, what guys like vox_PL don't understand: That's how the EU works: Business as usual. As Jerzy Kranz put it: Nice, the square root and the double majority all work. Within the EU it's not the number of votes that really matters but the ability to form alliances. And that's what the brothers Kaczynski need to learn". So in fact, it is much ado about nothing: In the end a compromise is reached which satisfies noone, but that's bearable for everyone. What the EU really is about is:

Both things are important, that is why German government so desperately defended double majority.

stepmother of Europe

[skraut]

‘’Because being alone outside is worse than being alone inside.. ‘’

Wow. Wouldn’t have thought you could ever admit this, after displaying so many Polish victim-hood freak shows!There is a lot of pride to be swallowed nowadays by vox_PL!
Beggars can`t choose, it is as simple as that!

[Aquinasfan]

while being outside is the worst option because we would be alone again between traditionally hostile powers, Germany and Russia.

Bears repeating.