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| 6-19-07
| Mike Burleson
Posted on 06/21/2007 7:37:25 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Edmund Fitzgerald was referred to as a ship.
But I understand the boat reference.
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:50:35 AM PDT
by
edcoil
(Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
To: SShultz460
Yes, I understand they are real greyhounds!
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:50:45 AM PDT
by
RexBeach
(Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
To: SShultz460
This sounds a lot like the talk that I heard in the late eighties early nineties.
Why do we still have Infantry? With all the fire power that a modern air force can bring to the battlefield, with waves and waves of missiles and bombers etc ... isn’t spending thousands of dollars per Infantryman a bit extravagant?
Then a real war came along....
To: SShultz460
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:51:48 AM PDT
by
dakine
To: SShultz460
For some reason, that old saw about eggs and one basket comes to mind.
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:52:28 AM PDT
by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
To: edcoil
Not by anyone who sailed the Lakes.
To: SShultz460
SONOBUOY PING!
Not the usual fare for a Sonobuoy ping, but I thought there may be a few who would like to weigh in on the discussion.
Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
This is a medium volume pinglist.
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:53:19 AM PDT
by
magslinger
(Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
To: RexBeach
I love aircraft carriers, but if they are attacked by waves of cruise missiles launched from a long way out, how would one evade and survive? Carriers do not travel alone. There is a lot of interlocking firepower available to sweep the skies free of missiles.
Carriers can also launch a counter attack to the missile launch sites, without crossing over the nuclear threshold.
Of course once an opponent crosses that threshold, all bets are off...
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:53:38 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Tired of living in the shadows? Move to Sunny Mexico!)
To: SmithL
To: dakine
Nope, the submarine force is the only part of the Navy that is still all-men.
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:54:09 AM PDT
by
Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: Mariner
My main idea is that you project power by protecting the Carrier. If you have SSGNs and a smaller SSN fleet you can smoke conventional Battle Groups that pair CV/Ns with Destroyers and only 2 SSNs
To: SShultz460
Some Russian-built boats come equipped with anti-aircraft missiles which makes this standard ASW tactic suicidal. That's a myth. There is no way for a submarine to use such a missile without giving itself away, and that kind of defeats the purpose of the submarine in the first place.
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:55:25 AM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
To: SShultz460
Sneak a few of these babies into the Caspian Sea ;o)
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:56:14 AM PDT
by
blasater1960
(Rehavam Zeevi- HaShem Yikom Damo)
To: TommyDale
To: SShultz460
Can’t wait to see the submersible aircraft that go with them.
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:58:03 AM PDT
by
Lee'sGhost
(Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
To: RexBeach
So far as I know, new destroyers may be slower than WW2 counterparts. I believe Fletcher Class DDs were capable of speeds as high as 35 to 38 knots. I am correct on that? They are slower, but they're better sea boats and more capable. And if you've got a missile chasing you then the fact that you only do 32 knots instead of 38 isn't going to matter much.
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:58:04 AM PDT
by
Non-Sequitur
(Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
To: SShultz460
Yeah, but they’re a PITA to upgrade...but that’s a submarine flaw in general...other than that though, they are great boats!
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posted on
06/21/2007 7:58:59 AM PDT
by
Andonius_99
(There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
To: blasater1960
again?
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posted on
06/21/2007 8:01:29 AM PDT
by
SmithL
(si vis pacem, para bellum)
To: SShultz460
A well defended carrier group is pretty formidable. Subs are part of that group.
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posted on
06/21/2007 8:04:48 AM PDT
by
llevrok
(I voted for George Bush - not Jorge Bushjoles!)
To: Lee'sGhost
Geez, they had those back in the late 60's...
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posted on
06/21/2007 8:05:02 AM PDT
by
Abathar
(Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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