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Texas Eminent Domain Bill Vetoed By Govenor Perry
castlecoalition | 6/19/2007 | Jarhead1957

Posted on 06/19/2007 5:08:18 AM PDT by Jarhead1957

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To: Ben Ficklin; Bigun
"in my opinion"

In your opinion, if a private landowner is required to relinquish his land for a public works project, how much compensation should he receive from the taxpayers?

Market value? 25% above market value? Double market value?


Let's get clear on this issue. The kind of "eminent domain" which local governments oftentimes engage has nothing to do with "public works projects". It's done to make a group of investors/developers/politicians wealthy. That is the real world. They have the power and the money to basically steal resources to enrich themselves.
81 posted on 06/19/2007 4:00:24 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Maybe we can find a “Stri`pi`dassBogBug” sanctuary in the way that must be “Protected” by that Bug-n-Bird crowd...;0)

Sorry...I no speak "southern"...what is “Stri`pi`dassBogBug”

:0)

82 posted on 06/19/2007 5:31:47 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Well,,,they rank rite up there with spotted Hoot-Owls
Least-Bell Viros and all the “Stop-Work” critters that we must protect,,,and not eat...;0)


83 posted on 06/19/2007 5:43:01 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: nicmarlo
"Texas Governor Rick Perry vetoed HB 2006, an eminent domain reform measure that overwhelmingly passed both chambers of the Texas Legislature."

Another traitor.

The NWO/Globalist/CFR/NAU agenda needs eminent domain as a tool for forcing an integrated North America on the citizens of the United States. If the transnationalists need your property, they will just take it.

84 posted on 06/19/2007 5:43:37 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

fofl!!


85 posted on 06/19/2007 5:46:25 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Czar
The NWO/Globalist/CFR/NAU agenda needs eminent domain as a tool for forcing an integrated North America on the citizens of the United States. If the transnationalists need your property, they will just take it.

I know! : (

86 posted on 06/19/2007 5:52:05 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Bigun
Condemnation/eminent domain has been used by govt and accepted by citizens thru-out civilization. I would dare say that when they built the irrigation canals in Sumer and Ur, someone had to give up land.

Given the magnitude of condemnation that occurs everyday at the local, state, & federal levels, and around the world, the fact that there is very, very little discontent with the process indicates that it is being done in fair and equitable way. While there may be a few unjust circumstances, for the most part, most landowners get a better than market deal and some of them make out like bandits.

OTOH, there are always going to be malcontents who complain that they have been screwed or think that they are entitled to more.

Anyone who has followed the issue in Texas knows that the bill that Perry vetoed was nothing more than a feel-good, get-me-re-elected bill that the legislature passed knowing that it would be vetoed.

87 posted on 06/20/2007 3:45:17 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Anyone who has followed the issue in Texas knows that the bill that Perry vetoed was nothing more than a feel-good, get-me-re-elected bill that the legislature passed knowing that it would be vetoed.

Hmmmm! I follow Texas politics pretty closely and I didn't know that. Thanks for filling me in.

What I do know is that a great many Texans are getting d*mned tired of their local governments using their tax money to fund lobbiest who work against their interest in Austin.

88 posted on 06/20/2007 4:09:23 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I support eminent domain taking of land if: it is for truly necesseary public works, not to give to a Costco or other tax cow et al, B) if all other alternatives have been invistigated and found unduely prohibitive, C) if the owner is given market value plus a hardship fee similar to what a well-heeled company might pay someone in moving expenses.

Do you disagree with any of these?


89 posted on 06/20/2007 4:26:18 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Puddleglum
What's your position on the feds stealing the land and water rights from property owners along the Rio Grande when the fence gets installed?
90 posted on 06/21/2007 8:49:26 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

I can’t answer that til you answer my questions (rinse, repeat)


91 posted on 06/21/2007 9:18:42 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Puddleglum
I didn't really expect you to answer.

You are like many-most here posting on this and other threads. You say that you are a big supporter of property rights but you have no obection to stealing the land and water rights of those along the border because that makes the cost of the fence cheaper.

92 posted on 06/21/2007 11:11:42 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

You need a “jump to conclusions” mat (or you are just trying to pick fights - I suspect the latter).

Thanks for the enlightening discourse.


93 posted on 06/21/2007 12:11:59 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Ben Ficklin
And you , not surprisingly, a big supporter of eminent domain suddenly becomes a bircher when the land seized would serve to keep illegals out. There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around.
94 posted on 06/24/2007 6:16:50 AM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom
Wrong again, and let me count the ways for you.

While the fence may slow them down, it won't stop the illegals.

And if there is to be a fence, I have supported the fence that the Border Patrol wants, as opposed to the fence that the borderbots want or the fence that border mayors want.

And the fence, however it finally gets built, will have a significant, negative effect on the Texas border economy. And, since I am objective, I will acknowledge that this negative effect is not attributable only to the fence. It is due to the requirement for laser visas already in place, the increased border scrutiny already in place, the fence, and the future requirement on casual border crossers to have a passport.

And the fence, however it finally gets built, will have a significant, negative effect on republicans. First, it will further depict the GOP as extremists. Second, it will affect GOP canditates, including those in statewide races, which is why the GOP's only Mexican lost his seat in the US House last November and why Cornyn and Hutchinson are scrambling to limit the fence.

There is a much broader subject here. And that subject deals with how the GOP would traditionally deal with property rights, water rights, land rights, privatization, socializing costs, and many other related issues. The broadness and complexity of the subject goes beyond casual posting at Free Republic.

Suffice it to say that the subject is like many other subjects in that it is a symbol of the trancendent problem that the GOP faces. These self-annointed "true conservatives"/"cultural populists" are not conservatives at all and are joining with the democrats-liberals-socialists to defeat the conservative agenda.

95 posted on 06/25/2007 4:19:25 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Jarhead1957

LOOKS like OKLAHOMA is holding its ground as a constitutional republic while TEXAS is a constant struggle to be a republic. HOW about it TEXANS? ARE you gonna let the PERYS and HUTCISONS destroy our country and liberties?


96 posted on 08/06/2009 7:23:52 AM PDT by jodrogera
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