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China: Modern-day slaves are beaten and buried alive as police look the other way
Asia News ^ | June 15, 2007

Posted on 06/15/2007 11:38:56 AM PDT by NYer

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To: pissant

And that’s the good old USS MIDWAY (CV-41) in the background — my uncle’s ship during the 1950s. Here’s hoping for some “Midway Magic” next fall!


21 posted on 06/15/2007 12:21:06 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Dumpster Baby

LOL. Perfect.


22 posted on 06/15/2007 12:22:32 PM PDT by pissant
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To: John123
Good point.

Duncan Hunter’s support of Taiwan clearly strengthens human rights in the region.

However, I fail to see how erecting broad trade barriers that don’t distinguish between those producers that violate elevate workers in China and those which repress them aids Chinese citizens.

The one example where a trade barrier worked was in the case of South Africa. Most people now agree that Ronald Reagan was wrong in his constructive engagement policy, and trade sanctions were the correct course. However, given current events in South Africa, I wonder whether “most people” are correct.

Trade is not to blame for China’s lack of freedom-— trade is currently that country’s greatest source of freedom. Slavery/serfdom did not just appear in China, and capitalism, by increasing competition, is the best hope for increasing worker’s treatment and wages there. Broad trade barriers to China, on the other hand, only rewards and encourage inefficient businesses of the sort that abuse basic human rights, by ensuring they don’t have to deal with competitors from, say, the United States.

23 posted on 06/15/2007 12:23:59 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: NYer

you mean the bricks my neighbor buys at home depot were made by slave labor.....but but....but it says made in china !


24 posted on 06/15/2007 12:24:40 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: John123
Prove it. Show me links that irrefutably shows that Wal-Mart is getting inventory from factories that abuse workers...

it should suffice that we subsidize a communist regime through trade, now you want proof of worker abuse for product walmart purchases.....oh please

25 posted on 06/15/2007 12:26:34 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: mjolnir

The difference is in S. Africa, they were nominally an ally with the US, so Reagan did not want to cut off trade. We can make no such claim regarding China. And the welfare of their workers is not the most pressing issue in dealing with them. It’s national security.


26 posted on 06/15/2007 12:29:16 PM PDT by pissant
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To: John123
Prove it. Show me links that irrefutably shows that Wal-Mart is getting inventory from factories that abuse workers...

do any workers in China have free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom to assemble, freedom to own guns etc etc.....thats abuse enough and the whole damned country is guilty of it

27 posted on 06/15/2007 12:29:23 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: NYer
uh, oh. The “Free Traders” are going to be here any moment and remind us that our economy is dependent on letting the Chinese sell all they can to us and that any deviation from this orthodoxy makes one a Patsie.
Should have let General MacArthur deal with ‘em back in the 50’s.
28 posted on 06/15/2007 12:35:12 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: gidget7
“And these are people we trade with and Americans companies want to open branches or headquarters in??”
Yes; their justification is that it allows them to buy stuff cheap at Wal Mart.
29 posted on 06/15/2007 12:36:21 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: Paperdoll; holdonnow

“The election of Duncan Hunter is imperative to maintaining our sovereignty, keeping the Chinese and Islamic wolves from our door!

Unlike many candidates, he is not a multimillionaire. Nor is he being showcased gratis on nearly a daily basis by the MSM.

Please generously help him to gain national exposure:

http://www.gohunter08.com.

Thank you.”

From a Conservative Perspective and most importantly a Patriotic one as well, Duncan Hunter is currently the ONE candidate that stands head and shoulders over the other declared candidates in representing Americans and Patriots.

Socialism is one step away from Communism. Duncan hunter “gets it”. Our Flag and our National Soverignty are on the table as we speak. Duncan Hunter has proven himself as a Patriot in my eyes. His record is proof of his consistancy, and right NOW is a time when that trumps everything! Conservative, Patriot! Now there’s something I will stand behind.


30 posted on 06/15/2007 12:40:43 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: pissant; NYer; mjolnir

China has always been a slave state. The difference now is that, as China slowly opens, we can see what is happening beneath the surface in ways we could not before.

I agree with others who believe that engaging with China has done an enormous amount of good in opening them up, and helping to create freedom that was not there before. It also makes it possible to expose the horrors and the corruption that still exist there.

To me its not “either-or”, we need to engage, we need to trade where its appropriate, and we need to shine spotlights on China’s slave-labor system and her persecution of Christians and other religions at every opportunity. And I agree with Hunter, that China must be held to the agreements she herself has signed, and beyond that, she must be held to the norms of basic morality. The price of opening our markets to her must be civilized behavior. We must never be shy about demanding it.

Oh, by the way, “go Hunter”.


31 posted on 06/15/2007 12:41:54 PM PDT by marron
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To: pissant

Ping


32 posted on 06/15/2007 12:42:10 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: NYer

Ping to post.


33 posted on 06/15/2007 12:52:58 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: John123

The heck with Wal-Mart. The important point is recognizing who is calling the shots, choosing the nominees, influencing clueless minds in this country! The George Soros owned MSM.

The point we must concentrate on is who we want to lead us against the Communist threat against our country by China, Russia, North Korea, Iran. Sleight of hand is played everyday to take our minds off our priorities, deliberately to advance their agenda.

Duncan Hunter has always seen the lay of China’s land. He has the vision, (now proven) clear thinking, the solid solutions so desperately needed by our country today.

And we are the deer in the headlights fast approaching from all directions at once. AMERICA NEEDS DUNCAN HUNTER! http://www.gohunter08.com.


34 posted on 06/15/2007 12:56:51 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: NYer

Horrifying.


35 posted on 06/15/2007 12:58:52 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: NYer
China: Modern-day slaves are beaten and buried alive

I understand this may be a track and field event in the '08 Olympics.

36 posted on 06/15/2007 1:00:24 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: jedward

BUMP DAT...


37 posted on 06/15/2007 1:04:33 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: marron

Well said!

I support Thompson right now, but that was a very good post.


38 posted on 06/15/2007 1:05:22 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: marron

I’ve said for some time that China is no longer communist. It is now explicitly a fascist super-state. One that’s being built with our money.


39 posted on 06/15/2007 1:09:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("You will have your bipartisanship." - Fred Thompson, May 4, 2007)
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To: EternalVigilance

“One that’s being built with our money.”

You make good points EV. And they can also try and pull the rug whenever want. Not a good position when your standing on the rug :(


40 posted on 06/15/2007 1:11:39 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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