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Giuliani/McCain Campaigns on "Life Support" . . . They Flip-Flop on Ames Straw Poll
Elect Romney in 2008 ^ | Jeff Fuller

Posted on 06/07/2007 9:37:37 AM PDT by Jeff Fuller

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To: fabian
Sorry, but Romney’s change of heart happened during his term as governor

Even while he was still an ardent supporter of abortion rights according to statements he made in 2002?

Reagan was for legalized abortion too until his heart changed

Another classic lie, first spread by Rudy boosters and now by Mitt boosters. Reagan signed a bill making abortion legal only in cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother. That's hardly supporting legalized abortion.

O come on, you are exaggerating Romneys past error.

Want me to post Romney's quotes from 1994 and 2002? I really don't think you want to go there.

21 posted on 06/07/2007 10:28:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: Jeff Fuller

Presidential ================= Post-menopausal.

22 posted on 06/07/2007 10:31:08 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Reagan Man; fabian
Reagan was for legalized abortion too until his heart changed.

Hey, RM, now some Mitt boosters are telling the same Reagan-was-pro-abort lie that the Rudy boosters used to attempt.

23 posted on 06/07/2007 10:31:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: fabian
And he has always been against abortion but not strong enough to have the government outlaw it.

He was proudly pro-choice when he was trying to beat Kennedy for a Senate seat.

24 posted on 06/07/2007 10:31:33 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: dirtboy
Another classic lie, first spread by Rudy boosters and now by Mitt boosters. Reagan signed a bill making abortion legal only in cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother. That's hardly supporting legalized abortion.

And he profoundly regretted it, when he saw the abuses it opened up.

25 posted on 06/07/2007 10:32:24 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: fabian
Reagan was for legalized abortion too until his heart changed

Promoting lies like this got many a Guilaini supporter banned, so I'd stop using this tidbit if I were you.

26 posted on 06/07/2007 10:33:28 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: dirtboy; BlackElk
Reagan signed a bill making abortion legal only in cases of rape, incest and the life of the mother.

Clarification, HEALTH of the mother, not life. At that time (1968) it was not clear how easily this exception could be abused. Reagan regretted the signing very shortly after it was enacted and worked to repeal while governor.
27 posted on 06/07/2007 10:34:35 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: fabian

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/05/25/romney_hints_of_a_shift_on_abortion/

When Romney was wooing Massachusetts voters in 2002, he said he supported Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion, and promised not to change the state’s abortion policies. He espoused the same position during his 1994 US Senate campaign against Kennedy.

‘’I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country,” Romney said in an October 1994 debate against Kennedy. ‘’I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.”

In recent months, however, Romney has played up his personal opposition to abortion in out-of-state speeches; removed a reference to Roe before signing an annual proclamation celebrating access to birth control; tried to promote the teaching of abstinence to students; and declined to publicly back a measure expanding access to emergency contraception, even though he said he supported that goal during the 2002 campaign. He has said he will examine the proposal if it reaches his desk.


28 posted on 06/07/2007 10:38:42 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: kevkrom
He was proudly pro-choice when he was trying to beat Kennedy for a Senate seat.

Heck, he tried to run to Ted's LEFT on abortion in 1994:

In 1994, Romney Campaign Accused Ted Kennedy Of Flip-Flopping On Abortion

In 1994, Romney Campaign Accused Ted Kennedy Of Flip-Flopping On Abortion, Saying "Mitt Has Always Been Consistent In His Pro-Choice Position." "Citing a 1971 letter written by Kennedy, [Romney campaign consultant Charles] Manning responded, `I think the reason they don't trust Ted Kennedy is that he flip-flopped on abortion. He was pro-life before Roe v. Wade and now he's changed. Mitt has always been consistent in his pro-choice position and that's why the group respects him.'" (Bruce Mohl, "Mass. Antiabortion Group Backs Romney," The Boston Globe, 9/8/94)

29 posted on 06/07/2007 10:39:43 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: sittnick

Thanks for the clarification.


30 posted on 06/07/2007 10:40:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: sittnick; dirtboy; BlackElk
The abortion worshippers never mention the context in which Gov Reagan signed the 1967 California Therapeutic Abortion Act....(which he later said he regretted signing). (Source: Right to Life history).

At the time Reagan signed The Therapeutic Abortion Act---- it was the Stone Age of abortion "rights," years before the USSC unleashed Roe v Wade in 1973.

Back in 1967, the Planned Parenthood savages were telling an alarmed populace that abortions would only be performed---and very reluctantly, at that----in the direst of circumstances----rape, incest, health/life of the mother.

Reagan apparently secured those assurances before signing the Act. (Source: Right to Life history).

PP's lies about abortion persist. We now know Planned Parenthood and the NARAL crowd all along plotted:
(1) abortion on demand with the govt picking up the tab,
(2) abortion as birth control,
(3) multiple abortions for convenience,
(4) abortion when sex of the child is unwanted,
(5) abortion for every conceivable birth defect.....and last but certainly not least,
(6) late term partial birth abortions (read infanticide).

God knows what these savages will unleash should their acolyte, Rooty Giuliani, sit at the levers of government.

31 posted on 06/07/2007 10:43:59 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: fabian
Mitt converted to a Rino in 2005 in preparing for his run for POTUS. Voted for AWB, forced Romney Care, ie socialized medical care.
32 posted on 06/07/2007 10:52:09 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: dirtboy
Don't make us laugh. Reagan's conservative epiphanies didn't happen when he decided to run for president. Mitt is on record praising abortion rights and Roe.

I heard that Reagan was a Democrat when he was a ward-leader early in his life.

33 posted on 06/07/2007 10:58:39 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
I heard that Reagan was a Democrat when he was a ward-leader early in his life.

As Reagan said, he did not leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left him.

I never really thought of myself as a conservative. Other than moving to a pro-life point of view, I really haven't changed that much over the years. However, I woke up morning and all of a sudden I was some kind of right-wing gun nut obsessed with fetuses. Go figure.

34 posted on 06/07/2007 11:04:17 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: MrEdd

>>>t conservatives neither want neither want, nor need, any of the three.<<<

Well, I guess you can speak for conservative. Not conservativeS.

Romney is going to be our guy. Perhaps Thompson. But it’s one or the other. And I have a feeling that both would clean Democrat clock. Romney, especially, I believe would make quick work of Obama.

When it comes down to it, putting Romney’s resume next to Obama’s is a death knell to our Madrassa-trained fluffball.


35 posted on 06/07/2007 11:06:24 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: Jeff Fuller

Sorry. Mitt calling anyone a flip flopper is just too rich.


36 posted on 06/07/2007 11:23:55 AM PDT by pissant
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To: MrEdd

Bingo!


37 posted on 06/07/2007 12:46:35 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: DBrow

I heard someone saying this, but it wasn’t a campaign person and may be an exagerration/myth. I can’t ammend post above to take it out, but that is not confirmable. I’m a part-time blogger, not a journalist (obviously).


38 posted on 06/07/2007 1:08:15 PM PDT by Jeff Fuller (http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/)
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To: kevkrom
He was proudly pro-choice when he was trying to beat Kennedy for a Senate seat. How come he never said "I'm a pro-choice politician" then . . . he never took upon himself the "pro-choice" label/mantle though he made several statements supporting the law as it stood. In contrast, he has taken upon himself the "pro-life" label/mantle. That says something to me.
39 posted on 06/07/2007 1:11:59 PM PDT by Jeff Fuller (http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cementjungle

He was but don’t forget the anti-Mitt rule, Reagan’s early mistakes are forgiven, Mitt’s are not.

Yet as far as I know Mitt was never a Democrat.


40 posted on 06/07/2007 2:04:48 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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