Posted on 06/06/2007 4:25:40 PM PDT by wagglebee
I think perhaps the amendment should come first. The pro-life states will drop out of the battle if Roe is overturned, the national movement will thus be weakened, and we may never get the amendment. It’s a toss-up, maybe, when you get to the heart of the issue: which scenario saves the most babies? I’d go for settling it once and for all.
It takes 3/4s of the states to ratify an amendment. So IMO you have to have a lot of states that already have banned abortion within their jurisdiction for an amendment to be ratified.
I still like Duncan Hunter the best.
If Fred would just talk to him some maybe we could get something going.
Hunter has all the right positions and none of the CR nonsense connected to him.
Let’s not forget, we are on the same side.. let’s not tear each other down simply because someone wants to fight for the same end goal on a different battlefield.
Hunter would be my first choice, but I am realistic enough to see that his chances of getting the nomination are virtually nonexistent. He would make a perfect running mate for Thompson and it would pave the way for him in 2016.
Hunter had one shot - run an alternative campaign harnessing the net and grassroots.
The irony is, out of all the pubbie candidates, old guy Fred has the best grasp of the potential of the new media - and how to use it effectively. The first debate, he outgunned them with a YouTube video. The second debate, as the other candidates dealt with the idiocy that is Wolf Blitzer, he outgunned them by having his own private session immediately afterwards on Fox with Sean Hannity.
If he wants Roe overturned and will nominate SCOTUS folks who will do as such then I am cool with that.
anything to help stop this abomination
I am okay with it too. I believe him because of his voting record. As to the issue, I really think the right-to-life is a federal issue already protected in the federal Constitution. States can’t decide whether you or I have the right-to-life (unless we are murdering maniacs). But since so many people can’t seem to come to terms with the fact that a pre-born baby is a human being, I am fine with making it a state issue. Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845541/posts?page=44#34
I like Mitt....best..but I was really proud of all the Republicans on that platform, but Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo.
44 posted on 06/05/2007 9:47:33 PM EDT by AmericanMade1776
So she likes Mitt. And then turns around and tries to imply some form filled out in 1994 shows Fred is pro-choice. But apparently something Mitt said about abortion in 1994 doesn't bother her a bit:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmY1MTQyMTk0Yjk2ZDNmZmVmNmNkNjY4ODExMGM5NWE=
I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.
Apparently for her, "I like Mitt" rhymes with hypocrite. I thought we wouldn't see any more such two-faced posts after the Rudy boosters were exiled to WAnkerville. Apparently some of the Mitt boosters are taking up the slack.
It's good enough for me, too. But, where are the ardent pro-lifers? In this interview, in 2007, Thompson doesn't take a moral stand on abortion - he dodges that issue in casting it as a states' rights issue. Many pro-lifers call abortion murder - so in their mind Thompson is condoning the right of states to murder by allowing abortion. Overturning Roe v. Wade is a step in the right direction, but it is hardly the core of the issue.
I'm thinking they are silent because their savior candidate isn't everything they thought he was.
Does Thompson have a stand on the morality of abortion itself?
Fredipedia: The Definitive Fred Thompson Reference
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Yes, I am a woman, and I hardly think visiting different threads and discussing the candidates is trolling. You guys need to lighten up.
I do like Mitt, I will say it here on this thread too, I liked all the Republicans in the Debate but Tancredo and Ron Paul. Yes...I said that, it is my right to express an opinion on the debate, I actually watched the debate.
Because you're a hypocrite, that's why. You support Mitt. Yet you have no answer to his statement from 1994 that he supported abortion rights AND Roe - as you bash Fred for a couple of possible pro-choice comments (while ignoring his perfect pro-life voting record).
That reeks, quite frankly.
Thompson has flip-flopped on McCain-Feingold.
First of all I didn’t bash Fred, I posted a questionaire he filled out in 1994, sorry if that hurt your feelings.
So tell us, then - where is your outrage over Mitt saying this in 1994:
I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.
Or is your outrage selective and only kicks in against the likes of Fred?
I said that, it is my right to express an opinion on the debate, I actually watched the debate.
And it is in turn OUR RIGHT to point out your rank hypocrisy for attacking Fred for a couple of lukewarm pro-choice statements from 1994 while you support a guy who tried to outflank Ted Kennedy on abortion in 1994.
Was this part of the questionaire?
Fred Thompson has sure changed his stance since 1994, when he was Pro-choice.
You're not even a good liar. You've been going from thread to thread bashing Fred. But when you support Mitt but bash Fred over the abortion issue in 1994, that is hypocrisy and rank political opportunism. And I'm calling you on it.
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