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A FairTax Tale
Nealznuze ^ | 5-11-07 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 05/11/2007 5:30:56 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: Hostage

Not a 30% NRST.


301 posted on 05/14/2007 12:08:58 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: lucysmom

You have already discredited yourself so many times but I will continue because you are a great form of advertising for the FairTax.

So for example you think that the FairTax will not increase the amount of take-home pay.

And then you say I don’t know the difference between fact and fantasy.

I can see people laughing at you now, especially “Joe Average”.

Yeah I guess when I no longer have to pay income taxes, that the extra money I have is going to disappear from my bank account.

Yep. More pay available under the FairTax is a fantasy all right.

What else you got next? All FairTaxers are ax murderers?


302 posted on 05/14/2007 12:14:59 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
Link to the post where I said that.

Silly boy! Link to the post where I claimed to be a real estate expert.

May we assume that your failure to answer Alwaysright's question re your employment confirms his suspicions.

303 posted on 05/14/2007 12:18:47 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Sprite518
I understand that.
I believe that is the problem, the lower 75% have between nothing to nearly nothing invested in the country.
Personally, I think a flat tax on all income would be the fairest. That way, those who make the least up to those who make the most, have the same investment.
Income would have to be defined as any revenue you currently have that you did not have previously.
One possible exception would be inheritance - family assets that have already been taxed.

As one of the previous posters pointed out, there is no business tax. Businesses simply collect tax.
304 posted on 05/14/2007 12:20:10 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Always Right

Awww...can’t do your own due diligence? Why am I am not surprised? Do I have to hold your hand?

Try googling ‘FairTax number of big retailers’ and look on a few pages.

The fact is that the Income tax is a nightmare and a nightmare to enforce. Just ask Mark Rich.

The fact is that Congress agrees that one of the indisputable advantages of the FairTax is that it is considerably easier to enforce, so much so that there will be huge layoffs at the IRS.

You have no dog in this fight. This is one issue that you and looneymum and the other lemmings have so wrong it’s a wonder you haven’t been taken away by those wearing white coats.

But I am happy to oblige you, it’s great advertising for the FairTax.


305 posted on 05/14/2007 12:21:58 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage

You sound like a person with an insufficient understanding of taxation and how business works to me. And some of your statements are just out of left field.

BTW- Do you work for any of the FairTax organizations? They might want to get a more coherent spokesperson.

But they might cut you some slack, after all you are just working with the material they give you, and it is a mighty thin gruel.


306 posted on 05/14/2007 12:22:50 PM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: RobFromGa

No.


307 posted on 05/14/2007 12:27:33 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: lucysmom

I beginning to understand your comprehension problem is deeper than first observed.

The FairTax as a consumption tax is a replacement for the Income tax. To attack a consumption tax leaves no alternative but to support an income tax. It is a given that taxes will and must be paid. The question is whether it is better to pay taxes via consumption or via income or via both. The latter is unacceptable, therefore it comes down to a form of consumption or income tax.

Are you for the FairTax or are you for the Income tax?

You are obviously against the FairTax. If you are not for the income tax then what are you for?

Maybe you’re for no taxes at all. If so, we have special places for people like you to think about that.


308 posted on 05/14/2007 12:39:40 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
After the FairTax causes you to be laid off from your government job, don’t go askin’ Joe for a job. He doesn’t like you much.

Fortunately, I'm self employed.

What do you plan to do after your FairTax gig - market reverse mortgages?

309 posted on 05/14/2007 12:39:49 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Wolfie

Yeah that’s right, you’re not NOW paying a 30% NRST because the NRST is not yet in effect.

But you’re paying a 30% exclusive embedded federal tax NOW.

So what’s the difference?


310 posted on 05/14/2007 12:42:01 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
Are you for the FairTax or are you for the Income tax?

"Definition: In false dichotomy, the arguer sets up the situation so it looks like there are only two choices. The arguer then eliminates one of the choices, so it seems that we are left with only one option: the one the arguer wanted us to pick in the first place. But often there are really many different options, not just two--and if we thought about them all, we might not be so quick to pick the one the arguer recommends!

Example: "Caldwell Hall is in bad shape. Either we tear it down and put up a new building, or we continue to risk students' safety. Obviously we shouldn't risk anyone's safety, so we must tear the building down." The argument neglects to mention the possibility that we might repair the building or find some way to protect students from the risks in question--for example, if only a few rooms are in bad shape, perhaps we shouldn't hold classes in those rooms."

http://www.unc.edu/depts/wcweb/handouts/fallacies.html

311 posted on 05/14/2007 12:51:50 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Why are you so condescending to call Americans ‘Joe Average”?

You haven’t demonstrated any faculty that puts you above average people.

I doubt you are self-employed. You are at the computer at all hours everyday on FairTax threads. Who do you think you are fooling? Joe Average?


312 posted on 05/14/2007 12:54:27 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
The fact is that Congress agrees that one of the indisputable advantages of the FairTax is that it is considerably easier to enforce, so much so that there will be huge layoffs at the IRS.

"Appeal to authority Definition: Often we add strength to our arguments by referring to respected sources or authorities and explaining their positions on the issues we're discussing. If, however, we try to get readers to agree with us simply by impressing them with a famous name or by appealing to a supposed authority who really isn't much of an expert, we commit the fallacy of appeal to authority.

Example: "We should abolish the death penalty. Many respected people, such as actor Guy Handsome, have publicly stated their opposition to it." While Guy Handsome may be an authority on matters having to do with acting, there's no particular reason why anyone should be moved by his political opinions--he is probably no more of an authority on the death penalty than the person writing the paper.

313 posted on 05/14/2007 12:56:10 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Cut and paste and you call this logic?

You think the FairTax is not designed to replace the Income tax?

BTW how’s that self-employment thing working out?


314 posted on 05/14/2007 12:56:14 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
I doubt you are self-employed. You are at the computer at all hours everyday on FairTax threads. Who do you think you are fooling? Joe Average?

LOL!

And what does the above make you? A FairTax employee?

315 posted on 05/14/2007 12:59:01 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

My O My we know how to read but not comprehend. You can’t stand up to the challenges so you seek to divert to cut and paste.

Go ahead and broadcast more of your absurd claim that the FairTax is going to be a nightmare to enforce.


316 posted on 05/14/2007 12:59:56 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
Cut and paste and you call this logic?

In this instance I would call it a futile attempt to educate.

317 posted on 05/14/2007 1:01:15 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

You’re the one with a condescending attitude on this thread. But it’ a real mystery to many I am sure just what it is about you that makes you think you’re above average folks.


318 posted on 05/14/2007 1:02:40 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: lucysmom

Futile is the key word. Educate is not your calling. You ain’t got any calling to educate because “Joe Average” has nothing to gain from you.

What else you got next? FairTaxers are incapable of being edjoomecated?


319 posted on 05/14/2007 1:06:25 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: RobFromGa

What I sound like to you is filtered through a medium that you and only you know.

I will not entertain for a second to undertand how you view the world around you. I do not do drugs.


320 posted on 05/14/2007 1:08:31 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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