They Shoot Mormons, Don't They? Religious Bigotry, alive and well today

Saundra Duffy

[FastCoyote]

“So what? I don’t think God is going to hold sincere people accountable for doctrine that may or may not false. God is nicer than Christians are.”

Wow, that’s a pretty remarkable God you have, one that doesn’t judge anybody on anything doctrinal. Their doctrine could be mass genocide (like Hitler Odin based religion), and your God apparently wouldn’t care.

Now isn’t that just special. And you have the gall to call other people loony.

[DelphiUser]

So do the Mormons have something like a Mormonia's Secrets lingerie catalog? Is it worth getting a copy?

Not unless you ahve been really deprived for a looooong time. LOL!

[FastCoyote]

“I wonder how many people care about ANY statement by ANY religious leader back in those days when discrimination happened as a matter of course.”

Come now, the abolitionist movement was a Christian religious movement (as was civil rights) extending back three hundred years. That apparently was a revolution ignored by our racist Mormon friends until 1978.

[sevenbak]

It wasn’t just prevalent. It was DOCTRINE until 1978. PEOPLE take heed, in 1978 Mitt was already a father. He was an adult man and believed in the teaching that a drop of “black” blood was enough to exclude men of color from holding the priesthood! Mitt firmly supported this doctrine, and so did I. I however have since repented. The LDS Chruch never repented.....they just got a new “feel good” politically expedient revelation from the prophet.

No apology, no regret....no statement that we were wrong, but just a new ‘revelation’ that God now thinks it is okey-dokey for Black men to be treated equally.

Of course other millions of people treated people of African descent dispicably. Those organization recognized they were in error and have changed, but Mormonism can’t do the same because they believe it was commanded of God - to Mormonism, God has now simply changed his mind.

( And I thought God never changes - oops just another difference between Christianity/Judaism and Mormonism.)

Do you know how fast the Church is growing in Africa? Do you know how many members are there? Do you know why the Church just dedicated a temple in Ghana?

[sevenbak]

Great post GW!
Thanks.!

[sevenbak]

Years ago I read several books about Mormons and Mormonism and it is the history of the sect that is off putting. Joseph Smith found golden tablets from God and then he lost them before he could show them to anyone else?

He didn't lose them, they were taken back by the same angel that directed him to them.

Here is his history

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1

[DelphiUser]

Did you get my stab at humor? ;-)

Yes, I did, however, I get a little serious when we are discussing banning from FR. I have been an addict here for years, I don't know if I would survive whithdrawl (grin)

[MHGinTN]

Assertions irrelevancy placemarker

[sevenbak]

I think Mormons are wonderful, upstanding people. I would not have a problem voting for one for president, any more than a Baptist, Lutheran Catholic etc.

Oh, and thank you for your reasoned and fair post.

[DelphiUser]

Placemarker, Yawn.... see you all tomorrow

[sevenbak]

I have been damned to hell by lots of ministers, then again, I grew up in the bible belt as a Mormon.

Some people even damn me to hell without meeting me, Sigh

Here's a interesting little tale: On my mission, a few streets from my apartment, a Baptist church had purchased a former LDS ward house for their meetings. The lobby had a beautiful hand painted mural of the first vision that covered the entire wall. When the Baptists bought it, instead of painting it over, they just painted out with leaves and trees one of the personages in Joseph Smiths First Vision. It still had JS there praying, but to someone who didn't know the JS story, it wouldn't mean anything. What I found ironic was a face to face revelation from God with God in human form is still contrary to orthodox doctrine.

We were invited by the minister to talk to him and a few members of his congregation a couple of times. Good memories!

[sevenbak]

Thanks for taking the time to share that post! I imaging the missionaries that offered service to you were following their hearts. We are encouraged to do just that to those in need, even as missionaries. In fact, there are missionaries that are called to be service missionaries in area that are ravished by hurricanes, flooding, famine, etc. It’s part of what we do. I think this snippet from The Book of Mormon might explain it better than I am:

Mosiah 2:

16 Behold, I say unto you that because I said unto you that I had spent my days in your service, I do not desire to boast, for I have only been in the service of God.
17 And behold, I tell you these things that ye may learn wisdom; that ye may learn that when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God.
18 Behold, ye have called me your king; and if I, whom ye call your king, do labor to serve you, then ought not ye to labor to serve one another?
19 And behold also, if I, whom ye call your king, who has spent his days in your service, and yet has been in the service of God, do merit any thanks from you, O how you ought to thank your heavenly King!

[sevenbak]

Saundra, did you know that your fellow Mormon sevenbak does not pray the same way that you do?

WOW, I must have missed that one. This I have to see. Who has the popcorn?

[George W. Bush]

Not unless you ahve been really deprived for a looooong time. LOL!

Keep going. I'm still interested...

[sevenbak]

Then perhaps he has you fooled. Romney has been a Bishop, Stake President, and is currently a High Priest in the order of Melchezedek. He is a very high ecclesiastical leader in the LDS Church. His office of Stake President is higher than that of Priest in a Catholic Church or Pastor in a Protestant Church

Frankly, Color I'm shocked that you think this. It's only been 20 years since you were in the Church, but surely you know that positions of leadership in the church are null and void when that person leaves the office of that calling. The lay ministry of the LDS leader is bestowed on someone through the keys of the priesthood. When that person leaves that office, the key, rights, and authority is given to someone else. Our former Stake President is now serving as a Scout Master. He has no more say in Stake matters than I do.

[sevenbak]

Is it Marriott’s profound religious convictions which allow that family to make millions and millions off of the porn they pipe into their hotels knowing that is what they are piping into their hotels?

Large Corporations are run by boards and committees, not by single entities. I wonder how hard it was to get them to keep putting Books of Mormon next to the Gideon Bible in each room?

[George W. Bush]

Great post GW! Thanks.!

Really, no thanks needed. We're the Grand Old Party, not the Grand Old Plantation. The Party Of Reagan is a conservative coalition of equal partners pursuing the goals of our party platform.

Our platform is the litmus test. Not theology.

[sevenbak]

They think their own perfect obedience and works will earn them Exaltation

You seem to think that Mormons are the only ones who believe it's important to keep the commandments and do good works? The bible clearly teaches this time after time. It is through Christ only that we are saved, but he expects us to do our best to keep his commandments.

I would remind you of this very plain language from the NT:

Philip. 2: 12

12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Find her post and you’ll learn her manner of prayer.

[MHGinTN]

I got my first Book of Mormon from the Marriott in Washington DC where my brother was on the Bell staff. That was years before I was born again. It was years after I tried to read the B of M that I decided to read the Bible through. But it was my college friend who witnessed to me of his Salvation that awakened my soul to accept Jesus as my Savior and be baptized in obedience to His direction.

After I was given a copy of the first edition of Fawn Brodies' book, No Man Knows My History, I read the B of M again and still couldn't bring my mind to finish it ... my own version of burning in the bosom: reddening of the cheeks at reading heresy and fraud in the name of God.