Posted on 05/03/2007 3:17:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
Ms. Campbell, yes. That was so stupid, the Supreme Court would have thrown it out for a convicted murderer -- on grounds defendant was denied his rights to a fair defense by an airheaded lawyer.
But remember, the whole question was retried, and they fixed it again, this time by the 3-2 "vote" of neurologists. Felos broadcast that one just sending all the way to Minnesota to get a death doctor, Ron "humane death" Cranford. All of those exams were supposed to be videotaped but only three of the five were (and Terri passed all three). One exam may never have occurred at all. It may have been faked. I.e., the court may have been acting on fraudulent "evidence." Fertile ground here for future investigators.
NARAL Land is a strange world. They don’t have babies. If a woman is expecting and you ask her what she expects, she says she’s expecting a blob of tissue or a fetus. Did she mate with a blob of tissue? Who is the father of this fetus, a grown-up fetus? Do they have public schools for feti? How old are blobs of tissue when they start bloboftissuegarten?
Yes, Duncan Hunter said that we should “err on the side of life” re: Terri. I think either Presidents Reagan or Bush originated that phrase, and I’m glad Hunter agreed.
One of the posters (probably an antilifer trying to make trouble) told another poster that Hunter was against helping Terri, and I knew it was a lie, and asked the probably antilife poster for a link, but never received a reply (NO SURPRISE).
I tried to search myself, but couldn’t find anything.
Anyway, now there is absolute proof that Hunter is thoroughly pro-life, from conception to natural death, just like Brownback.
Hunter and Brownback were the only two candidates that I heard speak (on EWTN) at the pro-life march in D.C. which shows they are sincere pro-lifers.
Some of the other candidates are pro-life, too, though.
I happen to prefer Hunter because he understands the China threat, has been effective on borders (the only politician to have a fence built), but I would be thrilled if EITHER Brownback or Hunter were our next president.
Rudy does the worst job at flip flopping on abortion of any candidate I have ever heard. But now the less-informed folks should understand that he’s not pro-life, too.
And here’s his answer on Terri:
MR. GIULIANI: The family was in dispute. That’s what we have courts for. And the better place to decide that in a much more — I think in a much fairer and even in a deeper way is in front of a court.
http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=5562636
REP. HUNTER: You know, Bill Clinton cut the U.S. Army by almost 50 percent. In this war against terror, he's the wrong guy to have in there.
And incidentally, on the Schiavo case, you know Ronald Reagan said on the question of life, when there's a question, error on the side of life. I think Congress did the right thing.
Transcript: The debate (Reagan Library GOP Debate)
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Michael must be furious!
I really don't see why anyone needs to be defensive about defending Terri. If they did some homework they could put the other side on defensive like we do. For instance, Chrissy, do you agree with this court order? Huh? Do Ya?
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ORDERED AND ADJUDGED the Respondents' Emergency
Expedited Motion for Permission to Provide Theresa Schiavo with Food and Water by Natural Means is is DENIED.DONE AND ORDERED in Clearwater, Pinellas County, Florida, this 8 day of March, 2005.
Judge George Greer
“I searched the media to see how they reported the positive support of Terri given by Duncan Hunter. Here is a list of all I found:
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You are so correct, and the media doesn’t realize that it could be their loved ones, or themselves, in Terri’s place some day.
“MR. MATTHEWS: Okay. Congressman, Bill Clinton back home.
REP. HUNTER: You know, Bill Clinton cut the U.S. Army by almost 50 percent. In this war against terror, he’s the wrong guy to have in there.
==>And incidentally, on the Schiavo case, you know Ronald Reagan said on the question of life, when there’s a question, error on the side of life. I think Congress did the right thing.”
You know, Duncan Huner could have just ignored the question about Terri, because he wasn’t asked about it, but he proudly showed the country that he supported Terri, even though he had to add it while answering an entirely different question.
Now THAT I like, because not all people supported Terri, either because of ignorance, or they are downright antilife, but Hunter didn’t care.
In 2000, 11.0% of the severely cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.
In 2001, 11.4% of the severely cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.
I haven't found data yet for other years, but I think it's a fair guess that the killings continue to climb.
This doesn't represent a percentage of patients who died (which would be bad enough). It doesn't mean that 11.4% of the patients who died were starved and dehydrated. It means 11.4% of all the people living in the U.S.A. with severe cognitive impairments were killed this way. And it doesn't include the ones who were killed using other methods, such as denial of antibiotics for simple infections, removal of breathing assistance, etc.
The standard used for determining severe cognitive impairment for the purpose of this study is a score of 5 or less on the Mini Mental State Examination (MMSE). Patients in a coma or PVS cannot possibly score 1, much less 5. You've probably seen people in the grocery store with a score of 5 or less. So these killings include a wide range of brain damaged people. I wonder how many thousands of people are living with a score of 5 or less. And for every 1,000 people living with a score of 5 or less in the year 2001, 114 of them were starved and dehydrated to death that year.
All I have before me are the percentages. I'd like to see the corresponding numbers. Or would I?
Following is the breakdown by state for 2001. Notice that Rhode Island tops the list, with just over a third of that population exterminated this way. That might have something to do with the fact that RI has appointed the pro-euthanasia group Choice in Dying the official State agency in charge of informing the public about “end-of-life choices.” They supply forms for “living wills” and “assist” the public in filling out those forms. This is what happens when you put the fox in charge of the henhouse.
Believe it or not, Florida and Texas are both below the national average. Every state is on the list. Georgia is at the bottom of the list, exterminating only 1.30% this way.
RI - 33.80%
OR - 32.50%
MI - 28.30%
MT - 28.00%
WI - 27.20%
CA - 23.40%
UT - 23.40%
AZ - 20.90%
PA - 17.40%
MN - 17.20%
AK - 17.10%
CT - 15.40%
WY - 14.90%
MD - 14.60%
NM - 14.20%
SD - 14.10%
WA - 13.20%
OH - 12.90%
ID - 12.30%
IA - 12.10%
MO - 11.90%
National Average - 11.4%
VT - 11.20%
HI - 11.10%
DE - 10.80%
ND - 10.80%
MA - 9.90%
IN - 9.70%
ME - 9.20%
NH - 8.70%
NY - 8.50%
NE - 7.70%
CO - 7.20%
AL - 7.10%
TX - 7.10%
IL - 6.70%
WV - 6.70%
KY - 6.60%
SC - 6.50%
TN - 6.30%
FL - 6.20%
NV - 6.20%
AR - 5.70%
NC - 5.20%
KS - 4.80%
NJ - 4.80%
OK - 4.10%
LA - 3.70%
VA - 3.60%
DC - 3.10%
MS - 3.00%
GA - 1.30%
Facts On Dying ~ This study was funded by The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, who adamantly opposes the rights of vulnerable people to continue living. So if any trolls show up, complaining that the data is skewed in favor of life, check the facts and get back to me.
Can you find a case where someone was denied “food and water” by natural means by a court order? See post #http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1827658/posts?page=87#87
Only one that I know of. The murder of Terri Schiavo had a lot of unique aspects to it.
That was very significant and very powerful for him. I thought he had been cut off and was very happily surprised when he spoke. It looked like Crissy was favoring the pre-chosen three and was trying to ignore Hunter. I was dismayed that such a liberal moderated it and that the finally selected questions were manytimes simply traps to get the candidates to slip up. But what can we expect from these lefties in the media?
I am afraid my Mom was part of that 32.50%. She was in Oregon at that time, went into the hospital for what I understood was a non-fatal ailment and next thing I knew she was transferred to a hospice and died. I was not there and had no control.
Uncle Johnny was in RI.
I don't know if that order was appealed or not. If so, I wonder how far up the line that it was given the okay?
Now that it’s a precedent, I wonder how long before another one is issued, and can’t be successfully appealed because it’s now established law. I also wonder how they can prosecute abusive parents who starve their children to death. It’s already been established that it’s perfectly legal.
I am not to sure if it is that legal yet. The pro-bono attorney's for the Schindlers always seemed to drop the ball at precisely the time they were supposed to drop it. I found some more examples of that I will post in the near future.
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“That was very significant and very powerful for him. I thought he had been cut off and was very happily surprised when he spoke. It looked like Crissy was favoring the pre-chosen three and was trying to ignore Hunter. I was dismayed that such a liberal moderated it and that the finally selected questions were manytimes simply traps to get the candidates to slip up. But what can we expect from these lefties in the media?”
Chris Matthews’ intent was to hurt Republicans to help Democrats, because in Matthews confused “mind,” killing innocents is a good thing.
As you say, he went after the front runners (because they are a threat to the Dems, or so Matthews’ thinks).
I love Hunter all the more for his pro-Terri statement, because he stood up and was counted, when he didn’t have to be.
99.9% sure that is so but will verify.
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