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VA Tech students under fire: Why didn't someone stop Cho?
Town Hall ^ | 4/26/2007 | W. Thomas Smith, Jr

Posted on 04/26/2007 11:57:24 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: Idaho Whacko

“The first room was “burst into unawares” After that, there was room to act.”

Actually, in every account I’ve read, people in other rooms thought they were hearing construction noises. There are cranes and jackhammers and all sorts of stuff right next to Norris.


141 posted on 04/28/2007 7:04:50 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: AppyPappy
I know these people, some of them personally. I know who did what. I know the circumstances. The media is not going to write about them. They would rather focus on the greasy little dirtbag who killed them.

Here's something else you're not going to hear from the media.

VT: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down

Local authorities were told to take no action to pursue killer

Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Friday, April 20, 2007

Police and EMT workers at Virginia Tech tell us that campus police were given a federal order to stand down and not pursue killer Cho Seung-Hui as Monday's bloodshed unfolded.

Though wishing to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, we have received calls from police and EMT's who tell us that a stand down order was in place, and this is also confirmed by eyewitness Matt Kazee, who is a Blacksburg local.

Kazee talked to local EMT's and police who told him the same thing, that the order was to wait until federal back up arrived before any action was taken. This explains the complete non-response of the police in the two hour gap between Cho's first two murders and the wider rampage that would follow later that morning.

The policy of federal control over the University was put in place following a previous shooting in August 2006 in which a police officer and a hospital security guard were killed.

In addition, a former long-term University police officer, George French, told the Alex Jones Show that it is routine to seal off a campus on which a suspected gunman is loose.

“Setting up a series of roadblocks, controlling access to very large pieces of property, is very much routine on any university campus in Canada and in the United States,” said French.

“After a double homicide, when you’re looking for a dangerous fellow with a firearm, I find it unfathomable that a series of roadblocks weren’t set up…to prevent the felon from escaping.”

French could find no logical conclusion other than deliberate inaction on the part of officials. “We have another coordinated, allowed event…the parallels are so common in each case; you can write the script in advance.”

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142 posted on 04/30/2007 12:58:15 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

UNC Greensboro has a dorm shooting a month earlier. It turned it to be a drug deal gone bad. There was no reason to believe this was anything but a boyfriend/girlfriend situation. Meanwhile, they arrested the boyfriend on Price’s Fork Rd. It turned out to be the wrong guy.


143 posted on 04/30/2007 1:03:21 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: archy
French could find no logical conclusion other than deliberate inaction on the part of officials.

Officials mired in bureaucracy and political correctness were probablably more concerned with whether the gunman was racially motivated.

144 posted on 05/03/2007 5:21:34 AM PDT by alrea (Secede Vermont!)
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To: Uncledave

Students need to be able to protect themselves with their own firearms.


145 posted on 05/03/2007 5:24:07 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!!!)
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To: Uncledave
"Figures a guy brings a HANDgun"

146 posted on 05/03/2007 5:39:34 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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"Figures a guy brings a HANDgun"

On my third trip to Isrrael in October of 1982, I was hooked up with an Israeli cutie, and the Uzi machinepistol was still very much in use then. I had the use of a 9mm Browning GP pistol, which came with a handy detachable wooden holster/stock arrangement, a very non-standard piece of hardware that immediately identified me as a chokolatnik amerikai, a veteran with a sentimental preference based on experience, or a spook.

The Lebanese Forces massacre at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps outside West Beirut had taken place only about a month before, and since the compounds had been under the guard of Israeli troops at the time of the slaughter, the Israelis were all tensed up waiting for the other shoe to drop, and in certain areas Israeli citizens were told to stay out unless they were armed. WE usually were, her with her buzzgun and me with the Browning.

But on one pretty afternoon when she had the use of her bosses' car, we went out for a drive that included a picnic lunch, and I just figured she had her Uzi along as usual. Likewise, she figured I had the Browning holstered under my windbreaker [it was windy, not cold, for which the Israelis wear sweaters] and it turned out that not only had neither of us brought hardware, neither of us knew it.

And, naturally, we were stopped by a bored MP at a checkpoint, who asked if we had our shooters, and both of us pointed at the other. The poor corporal had heard it before, lent us his 9mm Beretta Brigadier, and gave us a slap-on-the-wrist citation with a fine of, IIRC, 10 Israeli Pounds, the Shekel having just come into existance.

It was no biggie, but a decade later when I applied for a CCW permit in the USA, one of the questions on the application was *have you ever been convicted of any crime involving the use of a firearm.* So, of course, I checked the box *yes* and in the space provided included the notation *charged in Israel 1982 with not carrying a firearm in required area, fined £10.* They got a laugh out of it and I got my permit.


147 posted on 05/03/2007 7:31:43 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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