Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
More cowbell.
I'll catch ya later.
It is ironic - a lot of the Rudy boosters turn around and question blacks for their uncritical support of the Dems. And we all know what that has done for them.
If a party knows it has your vote without trying to earn it, it doesn't have to care about your views any longer.
“L.N. Smithee, the guy that came up with Sore/Loserman idea in the first place, posted in this very thread. And it was a slam on Peach.”
This has been debunked countless times. The person(s) who came up with Sore-Loserman even a site registered using that name quite some time before the notion occurred to anyone around here.
Woman’s “choice” usurps God’s creation. Only in a pagan society would women undermine a gift from God.
Never answered my question either.
“but I’ll support the party’s nominee no matter what”,
Exactly right. Why should the RNC pay any attention after you have said that?
Everyone? Even me? Gosh, you’re tolerant. Have a great day.
This scenario appears repeatedly in these threads, understandably so. However, I believe it is a false dilemma,
***Did I hear FALSE DILEMMA? Time for the rudybots to answer their own false dilemma. Here’s one that I routinely post and get crickets.
Hildebeast is eminently beatable, this nonsense about rudy being the only one who can beat her is horse manure and impolite on this socon forum. For example, this article:
Long Shot GOP Candidate Brownback Just Five Points Behind Clinton
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1798666/posts
We know that it simply means its very early in the race and that even no-name candidates are only 5 points behind Clinton. So the rudybots should stop supporting a social liberal on this social conservative forum and pick a real winner, rather than a ridiculous loser liberal like rudy.
The 2 polls on Free Republic put forth an obvious SOCON (only Hunter fits that description given) versus a SOLIB (it certainly fits rudy).
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=171
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=172
Rudy splits the base.
I have noticed time and again that rudy supporters rudely send up the false dilemma of who would you vote for, Hildebeast or Rudy. This particularly impolite at this early of a point in the primary cycle. Since this is a socon forum (not even a GOP forum), it is very impolite to ask double-bind questions, especially this early in the race.
Since team rudy is so fond of its own false dilemma, I would expect them to answer this false dilemma.
My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.
Rudy followers contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.
Hypothetical to answer the rudy followers hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.
Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?
Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.
Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?
Regardless of who wins or loses, Free Republic and the republican party is better off with Duncan Hunter than Rudy as the candidate. This social liberal candidate is simply not healthy for the republican party nor for FR. And rudy followers are proving to be very impolite freepers.
Duncan Hunters campaign website
http://www.gohunter08.com/
Yeah. They say they love debate, but always run from the hard questions. Always.
“Womans choice usurps Gods creation. Only in a pagan society would women undermine a gift from God.”
Actually, in most cultures that you consider Pagan, life is revered, and women hold an esteemed place as the life givers. In many Indian nations, as well as European cultures, the woman gave the word on going to war.
Sobering.
I have a saying that I often use: “Personnel IS policy.”
You know, I think JimRob could make some money by buying one of those leftist magazines and printing a Free Republic mag. Something to lay around the house for guests, that kind of thing. I can’t be the first person to come up with this idea... has it been thoroughly explored?
Bush is a good definition of center-right. And for conservatives, that is generally an acceptable place. For example, he screwed the pooch on CFR, hoping that the SCOTUS would defang it, but he also realizes the mistake and has not championed further infringements on the 1st amendment, like McCain. For every cringe moment we get with Bush, we can take comfort in his other strengths, where he has furthered Reagan’s vision.
But moving from a center right GOP president to a center-left one makes ZERO political or practical sense. One can reasonably argue that Rudy is better than Hillary (he is) but no one can argue that Rudy is good for the conservative movement or the GOP’s standing as a conservative party. Hence the need to undercut him now.
Cowbell or scantily clad women? Hmmmmm
That's correct. Right now, however, at this stage of our discussion I'm concentrating on getting clear, unambiguous definitions of the terms being employed.
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