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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: DCPatriot

We’re looking for religious right members that could...IF HE BECOMES THE NOMINEE...hold their noses and vote for him rather than allow a Clinton to run this nation again.
***Sounds like a talking point to me. Why don’t you just opus and be done with it? Why would you be looking for saltwater fish in a freshwater pond? If I were looking for middle-of-the-road rockefeller republicans I wouldn’t go to a meeting of welfare moms.

IF HE BECOMES THE NOMINEE...
That’s a BIG if. It’s also a false dilemma, especially during the primary season.

Since you’re so focused on this false dilemma, I would expect you to answer this false dilemma.

My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.

Rudy followers’ contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.

Hypothetical to answer the rudy followers’ hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.

Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?

Regardless of who wins or loses, Free Republic and the republican party is better off with Duncan Hunter than Rudy as the candidate. This social liberal candidate is simply not healthy for the republican party nor for FR. And rudy followers are proving to be very impolite freepers.


14,321 posted on 04/28/2007 10:45:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: CWOJackson

“I believe that anyone who was once a slave in the United States, at the permission of the government, should be entitled to reparations.”

Not bad


14,322 posted on 04/28/2007 10:46:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: Jim Robinson
Does it have anything to do with the reparations to the Japanese?

I wish I could find his comments on that when he signed the reparations act. This history of the Japanese internment wasn't nearly as cut and dried as so many people think.

14,323 posted on 04/28/2007 10:48:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Jim Robinson

: ) If we went by our founding fathers, NONE of us would be paying an “income tax”


14,324 posted on 04/28/2007 10:48:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: metalurgist

Good references on squeegee men that I hadn’t heard before. Keep up the good work.


14,325 posted on 04/28/2007 10:48:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: EternalVigilance

My eyes, my eyes! Lordy, it’s too late in the evening for reading an entire speech, EV. LOL

I asked a simple question. “Do you or do you not support eliminating federal income tax for inner city blacks as supported by Keyes?” A “yes” or “no” answer would be so much easier, and dare I say, much clearer as well. :)


14,326 posted on 04/28/2007 10:49:03 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team

“Yea, ain’t it a Peach? Oops, did I say that?”

I watched peach go down in flames live...she was so obstinate. Howlin I missed. Pity that. Everybody agrees she deserved her fate just for being the biggest bully on the board for all those years. But Queens also fall...and their minions are lessened.


14,327 posted on 04/28/2007 10:49:04 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: CWOJackson

LOL


14,328 posted on 04/28/2007 10:49:48 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America ...Hunter '08.)
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To: BykrBayb

LOL!


14,329 posted on 04/28/2007 10:49:51 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Chena

Keyes support for tax relief pretty much depends on which crowd he’s talking to at the time.


14,330 posted on 04/28/2007 10:50:02 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: EternalVigilance

I sincerely think he copied & pasted a talking point from a rudybot campaign missive.


14,331 posted on 04/28/2007 10:50:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: rbmillerjr; dukakis kerry the dream team; dmw
No tricks here, conservative comrades--just truth seeking.

Why won't you share your conservative credentials with some reports about your FReeper/conservative event activities over the past few years? There have been quite a few opportunities to be active beyond keyboard commando positions.

You have spent the past week name-calling, taunting, insulting, attacking and bullying people in this forum. Step up to the plate and tell us how you have been leaders of the conservative movement. Show us the positive conservative influence you provide to the cause. Oh--and check out my tagline.

14,332 posted on 04/28/2007 10:50:37 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: Jim Robinson

;)


14,333 posted on 04/28/2007 10:50:38 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Chena
>>>>"Well, personally, I feel all descendants of those terrible days should be exempt from federal income taxes for a couple generations."

English class is in session. Jim`s first sentence mentions "descendents". Not black descendents, white descendents, yellow descendents or brown descendents. He meant ALL descendents. That is a generic term usage, which applies to everyone! The rest of the sentence speaks for itself. Serious Constitutional conservatives, want to see the 16th amendment repealed. That would involve following the constitutional amendment process. Diffcult, but not impossible.

14,334 posted on 04/28/2007 10:50:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: CWOJackson
“I wasn’t aware that I needed your permission to do that.”

Never said you did. I just find it interesting the tone of your debate with EV. I noticed it was similar in tone to other posters who seem to be trying to stir up the pot here. It’s a pretty well known fact that DC is openly discussing things that go on here, which is just fine, however, it isn’t long after they start talking about certain people on FR (EV is their favorite target) the conversation suddenly shows up here. You might not be a part of that, but there are people here who would like to do harm to FR and JR.

“Care to share you interest with me?”

My interest is defending FR and those who work hard here to promote the stated goals of FR.

14,335 posted on 04/28/2007 10:51:10 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Bring me the slave, and I will cut him a check.

ROFL!!!!!!

14,336 posted on 04/28/2007 10:51:21 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Chena

No. I made that clear here in 2004. But, I’ll cut him a ton of slack because he is black, and I’m not, and because I agree with him 99.9% of the time. How many politicians do you know who hit that kind of average?


14,337 posted on 04/28/2007 10:51:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: CWOJackson; jedward

When Keyes first came out with that asinine proposal my first thought was every American, regardless of race, who had family who fought in the Civil War, should send Keyes a bill for services rendered.
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MMMMMMM,,,,bout,,,,mmmmm,,,OK,,,500rnds(rifle balls),,,
Bout 5-10lbs-O-Powder,,,that’s bout what it cost us,,,

Do the “Free Men of Color” that owned slaves and fought for the South get to charge twice ??...;0)


14,338 posted on 04/28/2007 10:51:56 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: EternalHope
Hello,

Flame Wars have happened here many times in the past. FR lived on and thrived after those, and it will after this one.

MOgirl

14,339 posted on 04/28/2007 10:51:56 PM PDT by MOgirl (Hillary: She lied today. She lied yesterday. What do you think tomorrow will bring?)
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To: rbmillerjr; Valin
But you come on every night and take the same pro-Giuliani side of this battle that is being waged.

Every night? Except for a series of factual posts to and from Valin around midnight on Thursday, I haven't touched this thread since Tuesday. And my position on this thread can't be described as pro-Giuliani. It's pro-decency and pro-fact checking.
14,340 posted on 04/28/2007 10:52:35 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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