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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
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| April 21, 2007
| Jim Robinson
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Bigh4u2; Knitting A Conundrum; wagglebee
"Then I guess that its a good thing that this is Constitutional Conservative site and not Scotland." Knitting A Conundrum very helpfully posted a link to the description of the fallacy. My point was very simple and straight forward, the argument that wagglebee put forward was an extreme and needless narrowing of the definition of a conservative to such a point that very few conservatives will be left on this forum. Taken to reductio ad absurdum, the group of 'true' conservatives will inevitably consist of one person. Traveling down the slippery slope, JR could at some point decide that those who disagree with his interpretation of Chaucer's 'Anelida and Arcite' be banned.
Taking a well accepted description of conservatism and building a ill considered Conservatism based on bits and pieces of the original description brings up visions of brown shirts and black boots (valid or not).
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:41:42 PM PDT
by
b_sharp
(Right is Might)
To: jedward
There’s gotta be some way of keeping this going long enough to get there. What else can come up with? We’ve been through rudy and conservativism, *just sayin* and his abortion alternative fantasy, had a burst of complaining about all the zots and grave dancing, criticism of fund raising just because some peeple donated, discussed DC and other anti FR sites some,....
There’s still plenty left. It’s just a matter of choosing.
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:47:57 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: sam_paine
--I've always thought FR is whatever it is at a given point, not what it sez on the intro page, nor what anybody wants it to be--
If this was a truly public meeting place you could say that. But we are meeting on private property, so the owner has more imput, than say if we met in a public park.
But I do believe that conservative credentials probably matter more...But it's like a venn diagram. On one side, is the GOP. On the other side are all folks that consider themselves conservative. In the middle is the section that matters most to FR: those whose conservativism matches the Reagan Revolution ideals and JimRob's mission statement. Those are the most important credentials of all here.
Of course the diagram isn't proportionally correct...but it was the first blank venn diagram I could find to edit!
To: b_sharp
So what’s the well accepted definition of conservatism?
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:50:22 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:51:26 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: fatima
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:51:41 PM PDT
by
AliVeritas
(Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
To: txradioguy; metmom
Well said, metmom. I know some people can afford to give more than others ~ I certainly wouldn’t judge a person’s contribution by dollars alone!!
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:52:21 PM PDT
by
StarCMC
(Honor military recruiters in all 50 states ~ May 19, 2007 ~ http://gatheringofeagles.org/?p=257)
To: b_sharp; Bigh4u2; Knitting A Conundrum; Jim Robinson
My point was very simple and straight forward, the argument that wagglebee put forward was an extreme and needless narrowing of the definition of a conservative to such a point that very few conservatives will be left on this forum. Give us a break. We are talking about conservatism the way it was espoused by Ronald Reagan and others. Quite simply, conservatives are pro-life, believe in the limited role of the federal government as spelled out in the Constitution, and understand that our freedom and liberty comes from God and not government.
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:54:15 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: b_sharp
“Taking a well accepted description of conservatism and building a ill considered Conservatism based on bits and pieces of the original description brings up visions of brown shirts and black boots (valid or not).”
Bits and pieces?
I don’t see that here. What I do see is people, whom believe in the Founding Fathers vision, wishing to return the original meanings in the Constitution and abiding by those meanings.
Not electing a Republican with ‘liberal’ positions, and instead insisting on Strict Constructionist for POTUS, to me is hardly “building ill considered conservatism based on bits and pieces”.
No one here ascribes to what you portend.
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:55:52 PM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:56:50 PM PDT
by
EternalVigilance
(The decks are cleared for battle - damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!)
To: Bigh4u2
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:58:38 PM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: metmom
“Theres still plenty left. Its just a matter of choosing.”
Oh, we’ll get there no doubt. I still think a name change for the thread is appropriate. We haven’t even started talking about the alternate candidates. Their names have been tossed about here and there, but nothing much beyond the surface.
I personally have been too busy with this thread and other things to even send out mails about it (lol). Knitting A Conundrum’s quotes have been an awsome mix to the postings too, and of course the others posting quotes.
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posted on
04/26/2007 1:59:04 PM PDT
by
jedward
(Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
To: Knitting A Conundrum
— Hey there! Put me on the recently banned ping list! =)
Man! You are brave! Me, I couldn’t have posted that without extreme fear of a typo or dropped word putting me ON the list. (grin)
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posted on
04/26/2007 2:00:38 PM PDT
by
rbookward
(When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
To: dynachrome
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posted on
04/26/2007 2:00:45 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
(Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
To: jedward
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posted on
04/26/2007 2:02:43 PM PDT
by
MrEdd
(Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
To: MrEdd
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posted on
04/26/2007 2:03:39 PM PDT
by
jedward
(Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
To: metmom
— Theres gotta be some way of keeping this going long enough to get there.
Ahem! You could, uh, try talking to yourself? No—already been done.
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posted on
04/26/2007 2:04:59 PM PDT
by
rbookward
(When 900 years old you are, type as well you will not!)
To: mkjessup
Do you mind if I borrow the dancing MC Hammer graphic with his parachute pants?
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posted on
04/26/2007 2:05:17 PM PDT
by
Eric Blair 2084
(Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
To: rbookward
cut and paste is your friend!
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