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April 12, 1861 The War Between The States Begins!
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Posted on 04/12/2007 9:34:54 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861

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To: Non-Sequitur

No more legal reason than then US had by invading Cuba.
I will give up. (when I’m dead. :)


501 posted on 04/16/2007 2:11:20 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.......)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Indeed. Another Southerner to save the day. :)


502 posted on 04/16/2007 2:12:23 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.......)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
fyi, you are going to look REALLY DUMB when my friend answers my query. fyi, i asked him if i could post his reply in FULL & if he would provide a means that FReepers could talk to him.

my point is that you are EITHER a TROLL, who should NOT be believed on ANY subject and/OR you are as UNknowing/ignorant of the WBTS period as the members of "The STUPID Club" are.

the club is a subset of the "DAMNyankee coven of nitwits, lunatics, BIGOTS, haters, useful idiots, REVISIONISTS & at least one RACIST". "Mr SPIN", the FOOL/HATER/NITWIT is this year's President of FOOLS, nitwits, useful idiots & BIGOTS.

free dixie,sw

503 posted on 04/16/2007 2:14:24 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: TexConfederate1861
The Confederacy wasn’t worried about it.

Obviously they should have been.

504 posted on 04/16/2007 2:21:44 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yes, but oh well....


505 posted on 04/16/2007 2:27:35 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.......)
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To: stand watie
fyi, i asked him if i could post his reply in FULL & if he would provide a means that FReepers could talk to him.

I'll look forward to it. Then we can forward the information to the Alexandria synagogue and let them know that you've determined that they don't know their own history as well as you do.

my point is that you are EITHER a TROLL, who should NOT be believed on ANY subject...

Hey, I'm the one who posted a picture of the actual historical marker in Alexandria. I've brought independent evidence to the discussion. You've just blustered and bullied and made assertions backed with nothing more than "so-and-so told me so."

506 posted on 04/16/2007 2:31:40 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
as i've said before, you seemingly are on FR ONLY to "cause trouble", ask DUMB/pointLESS questions,twist others words into pretzels, act like a "know all" and post IGNORANCE/nonsense.

in point of fact, TROLL, you are NOT believed by anyone BUT the DUMB-bunnies on these threads. period. end of story.

i suspect, but do NOT know that you are "heyworthLESS, the HATER/FOOL/BIGOT" in another guise. i do NOT think that it is a coincidence that you appeared at the almost the same time that he was banished FOREVER for being a BIGOT/HATER/DUNCE. further, you have most of the same sympathies/syntax/opinions that "heyworthLESS" had. QED, you ARE "the banished BIGOT".

free dixie,sw

507 posted on 04/16/2007 3:00:06 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
...twist others words into pretzels

What pretzel twisting? You claimed that the United States Army troops burned down the synagogue in Alexandria when they occupied the city, and that it was "the oldest synagogue in dixie." I simply posted evidence that there were older synagogues in the south than any in Alexandria, and that according to the historical marker in Alexandria, the first synagogue there wasn't built until after the war. No pretzel twisting involved. The pretzel twisting is you trying to figure out how to divert attention from being nailed in another fabrication. We'll wait for your friend the expert to appear. In the meantime, can we contact your "Miss Grey" in Tahlequah and find out why every source that says Stand Watie owned slaves is wrong?

508 posted on 04/16/2007 3:18:41 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
In the meantime, can we contact your "Miss Grey" in Tahlequah and find out why every source that says Stand Watie owned slaves is wrong?

Was that Miss Grey, in Tahlequah, with the documentation, or was it Col. Mustard, in the 7th Cavalry, with the candlestick? Maybe my impeccable source, Professor Plum, knows.

509 posted on 04/16/2007 4:33:11 PM PDT by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
in other words, you "know NOT & know NOT that you know NOT", OR you're just being a LITTLE TROLL.

your reputation precedes you. fyi, it is NOT a good one, as MOST here think you are a KNOWING liar, a TROLL or a FOOL. i vote for TROLL.

free dixie,sw

510 posted on 04/17/2007 7:57:37 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
inasmuch as the GEN owned NO slaves EVER, according to the tribal records, you UNknowing opinion (and that's ALL it IS = OPINION.) is meaningLESS to intelligent people. fyi, the TAX RECORDS of that day indicate that he owned NO slaves in 1860.

several members of the Watie family DID own slaves in GA & in IT. perhaps that's what you are confusing. otoh, you COULD be KNOWINGLY deceiving your readers. DECEIT is part of your reputation, too.

free dixie,sw

511 posted on 04/17/2007 8:02:49 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

So, basically once again you’re asking us to believe that the hundreds of sources that say the real Stand Watie owned slaves are wrong, and that we should believe what you say without any corroboration. Is that right?


512 posted on 04/17/2007 9:42:19 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("i'm wrong about many things"--stand watie)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
actually YES, that is PRECISELY what i'm saying as you have provided us NO POSITIVE PROOF of ANYTHING to the contrary and you have the REPUTATION on FR for being BOTH a liar & a troll.

thus EVERYTHING you post is (at BEST) suspect, absent INDEPENDENT PROOF from a TRUSTED SOURCE. at worst most here consider you a KNOWING deceiver & your "word of honor", a JOKE.

free dixie,sw

513 posted on 04/17/2007 9:47:19 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
I've posted a link to transcripts of the 1860 census listing Stand Watie's slaves. I've also posted photos of the historical marker in Alexandria that says everything you claimed on that subject was wrong. Now, what independent evidence have you EVER brought to the debate?

your "word of honor", a JOKE.

See, I don't think I've ever asked anyone to accept anything I say on my "word of honor." I post evidence and give links for other people to go see them for themselves. You're the one asking for people to accept you at your word, and you've been busted for lying so many times that you have no credibility at all. Shall we recap, starting with the captured U-Boat?

514 posted on 04/17/2007 10:50:15 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
the censuses for ALL of the 18th/19th centuries are FILLED with errors. in point of FACT, MOST heritage organizations will NOT accept as PROOF of ancestry ANY census data, which is NOT supported by other INDEPENDENT proof.

as for the "u-boat" situation, as you are WEEL aware, i was quoting an AUTHOR. i said from the first that i had NO independent knowledge of the incident.

fyi, this is just ANOTHER in your LONG list of DECEPTIONS, which you have TRIED to sell to the UNwary.

your REPUTATION is "mixed" at BEST & actually tilts toward the INTENTIONALLY dishonest.

therefore, nobody is fooled by your excuses.

PITY that you are still here "heyworthLESS"/TROLL.

free dixie,sw

515 posted on 04/17/2007 2:16:50 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
he censuses for ALL of the 18th/19th centuries are FILLED with errors. in point of FACT, MOST heritage organizations will NOT accept as PROOF of ancestry ANY census data, which is NOT supported by other INDEPENDENT proof.

So you claim. You've never shown any evidence to that effect.

From the DAR website

For other generations back to the Patriot, one or more of the following items would usually be considered acceptable proof: cemetery records, tombstone inscriptions, obituaries, probate records, wills, census records, Bible records, local histories, and well-documented genealogies.

as for the "u-boat" situation, as you are WEEL aware, i was quoting an AUTHOR. i said from the first that i had NO independent knowledge of the incident.

Do you want me to put up your original posts again? You made no such caveat about the author until you realized that no amount of bluster was going to put a U-boat in a Galveston park and you had to back away from your absurd claims. And of course there's the fact that no one has ever been able to find a trace of such a book existing in any library, any bibliography, or any bookseller.

516 posted on 04/17/2007 2:36:01 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
MOST heritage organizations will NOT accept as PROOF of ancestry ANY census data

From the SCV website:

"Our Professional Genealogy Research Service is a modest fee of $25 which pays for our time, a report on what we find, and up to 3 electronic copies of Census records or other public documents which show your lineage."

"Study the example above, and learn how to use the 1850 and 1860 Census Indices and the 1880 and 1900 Soundex Records, and you will be able to build a family tree that includes men who fought for the preservation of the Constitution."

517 posted on 04/17/2007 2:47:53 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
laughing AT you, TROLL.

the FACT is that hardly anyone on FR believes anything you post, as your reputation is that of a TROLL/DECEIVER. thus it makes no difference WHAT you post, as you will be believed by (almost) nobody. (exceptions are for the members of "THE STUPID CLUB", a subset of "The DAMNyankee Coven of lunatics, idiots, HATERS, fools, BIGOTS & at least one RACIST".)

have you noticed that only 3 ("ftd", "Mr SPIN" & "sw") people on FR will post TO you???? the reason is that they do NOT wish to "dirty their hands" by associating with you.

as i told you MONTHS ago,one NICE lady of the forum said that she was "disappointed in you" (speaking of me) "that you would lower yourself by posting to Bubba HoTep".

btw, ONE of your "missteps" that cost you any respect, which you might otherwise have had, was when you VIOLATED the protocols of the forum by posting PRIVATE MESSAGES of a FReeper "on forum", without the consent of the sender (me). fyi, you "ruined yourself" with that ONE act alone. since then, NOTHING you've done has improved your reputation. of course your reputation at that time was UNSAVORY, at best; thus you couldn't make your reputation much WORSE, in most people's minds.

free dixie,sw

518 posted on 04/17/2007 2:48:32 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
laughing AT you, TROLL.

"to get yourseld out of a hole, first stop digging." = you might think on that.

the TRUTH is that NOTHING you post (to me or almost anyone else)is believed.

frankly, i don't care what your opinion is.

free dixie,sw

519 posted on 04/17/2007 2:53:15 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
I warned you that I'd post the messages if you continued to make threats in them that you were too much of a coward to post publicly. It's you who was humiliated by them, since they showed what a bully and coward you are. Do you ever notice that the rest of your Lost Cause brethren don't much acknowledge you, much less rush to your support?

So, what does your little bird tell you these days?

520 posted on 04/17/2007 3:14:24 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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