Posted on 04/09/2007 10:25:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
So, the instant an illegal foreign national invader steps over our border, he's invested with all the protections of the U.S. Constitution, eh? Is this what they call a "path to citizenship"?
Did they know he was an illegal when they arrested let him escape?
Ah, so you’re in the “lock up the LEO, let the illegal invader drug runner go free” camp, eh?
Ah. It’s the LEO’s fault. Gotcha.
Who let the illegal invader drug runner escape? Was it your fault?
Should they be in prison for a dozen years?
You sure are from Illinois aren’t ya???
I know your smarter than the average bear, but don’t you ever kinda, just a little, sit back and scratch your head when you hear or see somethig that just doesn’t seem right to you???
No conspiracy is not worth looking a little into, just to see how far the rabbit hole goes...
And to qualify this, this particular issue is not a conspiracy, it is though a little strange that the efforts to “get” these particular BP agents seemed a little over the top from our investigative and prosecutorial enties, would you at least agree, based upon what has been spoon fed to the public???
I will be the first to admit once again that news is not evidence, and that the portayal of the BP agents and their actions, testimony and evidence didn’t paint them in a good light...
But if you looked at the guy they supposedly “mistreated”...Uhhh, shot in the a$$...It just seems to me that the two sides of the story, at the very least cancel each other out, and that when it came to investigating the investigation...It just looked like someone was looking for a fall guy(s)...
And now the big picture is once again clouded, with inaction, hesitation, and apathy towards enforcing our border against the criminals who seek to exploit it...
Not to mention that it is entirely possible and likely that shortly we will give a pass to those who are here, once again illegally, and that the door will be wide open with no real risk of discovery, capture and at the most deportation, that is really the bottom line of all of this...
Tell me what you think, I honestly want to know how you may think this won’t effect you in the utopia of Blagovich and Daly’s Illinois???
I don’t think the Border Patrol agents should be in jail, but having said that, I do not see the relevance of whether the witness lied about being a repeat drug importer.
The BP said he thought he saw a gun in the perp’s hand.
The prosecution said there was no gun, and offered as proof the testimony of the perp that he didn’t have a gun.
But ... if there was evidence introduced that the perp lied about not being a repeat drug importer.... there is no reason to believe that he would lie about not having a gun ... and so the jury could discount his testimony entirely.
Now .. could the jury convict the BP beyond a reasonable doubt of shooting the perp without reason when there was uncontested testimony that he saw a gun and fired his weapon to defend himself???
I think not.
If you shot at somebody, how much time should you do? Should an LEO do more or less time than a civilian for the same thing?
Sure. All things being equal, this isn't the first case I would pick to spend resources on.
But if you looked at the guy they supposedly “mistreated”...
They shot at him. I hope I never get "mistreated" like that.
It just seems to me that the two sides of the story, at the very least cancel each other out
Cancel each other out? LOL!
Not to mention that it is entirely possible and likely that shortly we will give a pass to those who are here, once again illegally, and that the door will be wide open
We need a big wall and we need to squeeze employers until many illegals leave. When we catch them, we should send them back. Anchors included.
Tell me what you think, I honestly want to know how you may think this won’t effect you in the utopia of Blagovich and Daly’s Illinois???
I think it will effect Chicago. We have a huge concentration of illegals. Anything that makes border enforcement (LOL!) weaker will only send more illegals here.
Your posts make me think you don’t know what it’s like down on our southern border these days.
Yeah right.
They’ve been betrayed and handcuffed by their own leadership.
Yup. Now it's harder for the good ones to stop the inflow. And it's harder for the bad ones to shoot and cover it up.
And of course, yes anyone who is in the US has the same Constitutional rights (which are different than citizenry rights). You see, that's what our FF meant when they said they were "inalienable". That means no one can take them away from you (for those of you in Rio Linda)...because they are bestowed on you by God, not man. If man bestowed them, man can take them away.
It’s not really about the rule of law to you, is it? It’s about shooting illegal Mexicans in the ass, which you prefer over preventing a police state.
“But ... if there was evidence introduced that the perp lied about not being a repeat drug importer.... there is no reason to believe that he would lie about not having a gun ... and so the jury could discount his testimony entirely.”
Jury members said they gave no weight to OVD’s testimony...the cover up and inconsistent testimony of R&C was what convicted them.
“Your posts make me think you don’t know what it’s like down on our southern border these days.”
Yes things are bad, and you’re solution is illegally without warrant or cause to shoot all the Mexicans?
And everyone who looks like a Mexican. And everyone who likes Mexican food.
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