Yep. I am on record as saying (at that time) that it was a huge mistake. I thought so then, I still think it was a bad move, and the coming repeat of that bad move will be an even worse move.
Posted on 04/09/2007 8:35:35 AM PDT by kellynla
His point was mindless Bush bashing and breaking FR rules, apparently.......
Well if we have annual quotas that our economy and social service structure is supposed to be able to handle, and if those quotas are vastly exceeded by criminals outside our immigration process, then maybe on occasion a cooling off period could be a good idea. Nonetheless, he is not against immigration, nor am I.
Unlimited immigration and totally open borders are foundational to the globalist agenda, and “national security” means a different thing for these people than it does for a conservative. National sovereignty is irrelevant for the true globalist, an obsolete holdover from the past.
There’s no common ground on which to have a debate. The two world views are fundamentally different and irreconcilable.
I have no idea WTF you're talking about.
First off, two wrongs don't make a right. The IRCA of 1986 taught many people a good lesson about illegal immigration. Looks like Dubya wasn't one of those people.
Maybe if the employer sanctions that included up to a million dollar fine hadn't been gutted by Sen Ted Kennedy and others on the left, that 1986 amnesty for 2.7 million illegals would have been what it was meant to be. A one time only amnesty offer, period. Instead, what Reagan signed off on turned into 20 years of liberal immigration policy from Bush 41, through Clinton and onto Bush43. Now Dubya wants to grant an amnesty to 15 million illegals.
That is not "some left-wing conspiracy", as you call it. Its called, liberal immigration policy, and Dubya along with Pubs and Dems from Kennedy, McCain, Giuliani and others, support it.
Would you mind pointing me to the post where I mention costs? Perhaps you have me mixed up with someone else.
I’ve made the jello shooters, one for every time he says “Jobs Americans won’t do” or the equivalent code language.
add:
yada yada yada nation of immigrants.
“What’s the cost of deporting every single one?”
There is no need to deport ‘every single one.’ All we need to do is show a willingness to deport and to not tolerate violations of our immigration law. Much like enforcing a speed limit. Police do not need to catch all people speeding but make it likely that one will get ticketed and delayed enugh to make attempting to speed a bad proposition.
If we do have a need for exogenous unskilled labor (which I don’t believe we do but am open to the proposition), I’d prefer that it only be open to people who have not previously not violated our immigration and labor laws.
IMO There will be a large economic expense to an amnesty but the biggest expense of an amnesty will be the message that the rule of law in the US means nothing and that those who cheat will prosper.
Yep. I am on record as saying (at that time) that it was a huge mistake. I thought so then, I still think it was a bad move, and the coming repeat of that bad move will be an even worse move.
I agree. It’s like Laura Ingraham. She’s psychotic on the border issue. I’ll bet she didn’t even know there was a border 3 years ago.
She’s all, “we love George Stephanopolis” because he says ‘hi’ to her at the gym, yet she makes horrible statements about the president because she doesn’t like his immigration policy.
None of these ‘close the border’ people have a real plan about what to do about the illegal immigrants, but things are changing a little.
I like what Fred Thompson said about it. In fact, I like him, period.
I read Reagan’s transcript of his radio broadcast from the 1970s that outlined why we have guest workers. It was enlightening.
As for border enforcement, I have seen it first hand. I don’t know whether the illegals that are being arrested and sent back to Mexico are returning the next day or the next week, but I know someone is doing his job on this side. But maybe it’s all a show, and there are not any illegals being handcuffed on the side of the road and stuffed into the animal control-looking vehicles that take them somewhere else where they are put on the big Homeland Security buses and toted back to Mexico.
I know what I have seen, but what I have seen is anecdotal. Most of our neighbors where we currently live would be accused of being “illegals” if they were to venture to flyover country. They speak with Spanish accents, and they can even speak a few words of Spanish as well. We met a guy who graduated from hubby’s rival high school in the Midwest a year before hubby graduated, and he sounds like he just hopped off a smuggler’s truck from Mexico. (that would be the early 1980s) The guy has lived in the US all of his life. When he was old enough, he moved to an area where he would be around other Mexican-sounding people. I have to wonder what some people thought the U.S. Southwest was like 100 years ago.
There is a definite problem with uncontrolled immigration, but there is work being done. There is a whole lot more to do!
I gave up listening to politicians for Lent and I may continue the practive until next year.
It certainly won’t hurt my supply of Advil. LOL
AND RR said that that was his biggest mistake.
I think so, too. He knows that Americans in general loathe his open borders policy, and will use these belated enforcement efforts to try to sell us on the idea that he cares about enforcing our immigration laws and securing the border. But, he'll likely be unable to resist some major hispandering in this speech, too.
I gave up sweets for Lent. You probably made the better choice.
Yesterday I made a chocolate cream pie with whip cream and ate two pieces. It made me sick!! That’s what I get.
I really should have known better than to get on this thread, which reveals the shallow thinking of so many of my buddies on Free Republic.
As soon as he gets his amnesty-plus program, all enforcement will cease.
When did he say that? It would be good to put an addendum on our “Reagan: In His Own Words” book.
Although, I believe RR’s biggest mistake was his failure to retaliate for the murders of over 200 Marines & Sailors in the 1983 Beirut terrorist bombing of the Marine barracks. But I digress. LOL
There is a problem, but it didn’t start yesterday and it didn’t start when George Bush was elected.
It has been growing, largely ignored, for 30-40 years. Now in the last few years people have noticed, hey, we have illegals here. wonder how that happened?
They seem to think Bush can wave a wand and they will disappear. Any reasonable statement he makes about dealing with the problem sends them into a fury.
He always emphasizes the border, but because he also mentions dealing with those already here ... which we have to do, by the way ... fries the brain cells of the one-issue people here.
I may have read it in Peggy Noonan’s book, but I shall check and get back to you, petit.
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