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Universal Accord {Cosmology}
Symmetry Magazine ^ | March 2007 | Rachel Courtland

Posted on 04/05/2007 2:48:17 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: betty boop; TXnMA; hosepipe
Excellent summing-up of the three components of the critical density of the universe: dark energy, dark matter and ordinary matter! Thank you!

The Standard Model suggests that ordinary matter appears as the Higgs field/boson - but so far neither Fermilab nor CERN have been able to create or observe the Higgs. And obviously dark matter and dark energy cannot be observed in laboratory conditions either - so the whole issue of mass has many exciting mysteries for up and coming Physicists.

Naturally, my interest is drawn to the geometric theories. Among these is that dark energy may be a space/time "outdent" - or negative gravity - the reverse of a space/time "indent" or positive gravity. Another is that mass in 4 dimensions may be shadows of momentum components in a 5th dimension. Another that particles in 4 dimensions may be multiply imaged from as little as a single particle in a 5th dimension.

All very fascinating...

21 posted on 04/05/2007 9:35:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on Light and darkness - and the intersection with the Spiritual and the physical!
22 posted on 04/05/2007 9:43:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

LoL..


23 posted on 04/05/2007 11:11:22 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; FairOpinion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...
Thanks Las Vegas Dave for the ping, LibWhacker for the topic.

24 posted on 04/06/2007 6:19:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: brivette; RunningWolf; metmom
"OK, anyone know what dark matter is?"

Yes, it's another band-aid on the unworkable 'Big Bang' cosmos. There are so many band-aids on it now, they should call it the Johnson & Johnson Consensus.

25 posted on 04/06/2007 6:42:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: TXnMA
PING! Perhaps this discussion of cosmology will prove to be a bit more mature...

It ain't looking good so far but is pretty funny....

26 posted on 04/06/2007 7:45:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[.. Is it any wonder these "light universe" theories are gaining ground?...]

Indeed swirling galaxys in an ocean of what?.. Dark energy?, matter?... both?..

Light energy/matter?... Dark energy/matter?..

Could be space is NOT empty..

But a coriolis effect seems to be universally present.. Its true on this planet that the coriolis effect turns one way in the northen hemisphere and revolves the other way in the southern.. maybe all we see is a part of the universe and that the universe is not expanding but revolving..

What a state of affairs when even what we think "is material" may not be.. since "we" don't know what material even is.. Material might be designated energy and energy is just matter undesignated.. like water(STEAM) and ice..

27 posted on 04/08/2007 9:15:37 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
a coriolis effect seems to be universally present

How would this be observed aside from on a rotating planet?

28 posted on 04/08/2007 9:19:18 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: RightWhale
[ How would this be observed aside from on a rotating planet? ]

I'm not getting your point.. Galaxys turn.. Black Holes (if there even is/are BH's) turn.. <<- revolve as a point to a drain..

29 posted on 04/08/2007 9:23:02 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Things in freefall wouldn’t experience the coriolis effect.


30 posted on 04/08/2007 9:24:15 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: RightWhale
[ Things in freefall wouldn’t experience the coriolis effect. ]

Are hurricanes and cyclones in freefall?..

Interesting point.. Corolis effect flys in the face of gravity..

31 posted on 04/08/2007 9:27:06 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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Are hurricanes and cyclones in freefall?..

No. There are aerodymanic forces present inside a gas of such sufficient density as the particles have very short free path.

32 posted on 04/08/2007 9:31:01 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: RightWhale
[ There are aerodymanic forces present inside a gas of such sufficient density as the particles have very short free path. ]

Earth has an atmosphere..

Galaxys might have a Spaceophere.. i.e. dark energy/matter.. light energy/matter..

33 posted on 04/08/2007 9:38:50 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: brivette
OK, anyone know what dark matter is?

Apparently it's a (not terribly successful) Hardcore Punk band from Lawrence, Kansas.

http://www.darkmatter.us/homepage.html

If anyone has a garage band ready to go public out there, it appears (amazingly) that "Dark Energy" has yet to be taken.

34 posted on 04/08/2007 9:42:33 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: hosepipe
Galaxys might have a Spaceophere

Coriolis force (a specious force like centrifugal) results when something, a pressure gradient, forces a fluid to move from the edge of a rotating disk toward the center. In the case of earth's atmosphere, heating at the equator drives circulation toward the poles and the resulting mixing with cool layers moving back toward the equator gives the characteristic cyclone and anticyclone whirls as well as a resonance that is the jet stream. In a galaxy everything is simply rotating in a peculiar gravity field and is not being driven either inward or outward so that specious forces would not operate. Note the lack of cyclones and anticyclones in Venus' atmosphere which parallels the near lack of rotation.

35 posted on 04/08/2007 9:48:53 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: RightWhale
[... In a galaxy everything is simply rotating in a peculiar gravity field and is not being driven either inward or outward so that specious forces would not operate. ..]

Sounds logical except for the fact literally no one knows what gravity is..
Probably because some think gravity is multi dimensional.. and probably is..
I prefer the "light" energy/matter, "dark" energy/matter mental figment(s) as a metaphorical answer..

36 posted on 04/08/2007 11:25:18 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Then what is your metaphorical coriolis effect?


37 posted on 04/08/2007 11:30:04 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: RightWhale
[ Then what is your metaphorical coriolis effect? ]

I don't need one.. Whatever it is, it is..

38 posted on 04/08/2007 11:35:45 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: RightWhale

WoW!. What do you do for a living?


39 posted on 04/08/2007 3:39:25 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

Nothing. I’m just a leftover from when they cancelled the Apollo moon program.


40 posted on 04/08/2007 3:48:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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