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One of 10 draftees still in Army retires
Charleston Daily Mail ^ | today | staff

Posted on 03/29/2007 3:05:36 PM PDT by Rodney King

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To: silentreignofheroes

Don't dish if if you can't take it.

At least now you know a person could volunteer for the draft back then. Nothin' funny about it.


101 posted on 03/29/2007 4:34:42 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: geo40xyz

I was a two year RA, no choices of course. But the best plans of mice and men go astray :^(


102 posted on 03/29/2007 4:35:05 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: leadpenny

If you only agreed to the two years you took what they gave you based on your test scores..


That I remember,,Never knew the scores but had talked to dudes that had 2 yr tours..I don't remember voluntering for the draft..


103 posted on 03/29/2007 4:35:41 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

When I was in the USMC in 1971, they were RIFing officers left and right, too. My boss had three different ranks in one day. They RIFed him from Captain to W-2 and promoted hime to W-3. He sure hated to give up those railroad tracks.

BTW, I was a draftee myself. Yes, into the Marine Corps. Later served 13 years with the Army National Guard. I might even be in to this day if they had wanted old fat bastards like me back in '92.


104 posted on 03/29/2007 4:38:25 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: shorty_harris

Had to have it due to the Shipboard Radar??


105 posted on 03/29/2007 4:38:59 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Repeal The 17th
They DID NOT "volunteer for the draft".

As funny as it may sound it was very possible to "volunteer" for the draft. I know. I did it.

For most young men at the time you registered for the draft at 18, got your draft card, and waited.

Or you went to college (or some other qualifying school) and got a 2S deferment.

Or you visited your friendly recruiter and volunteered.

Or you called your local draft board, as I did, and asked them to send you a draft notice. I had mine in a matter of days and two weeks later was a "US" with a two year commitment like all the other draftees (unlike volunteers who were RAs with 3 and 4 year obligations).

106 posted on 03/29/2007 4:39:15 PM PDT by O6ret
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To: O6ret

you make me curious now .... what year was that?


107 posted on 03/29/2007 4:42:17 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: O6ret

I've tried to tell 'em Colonel. What did you do during that two years to switch over?


108 posted on 03/29/2007 4:42:46 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Don't dish if if you can't take it. What does that mean..?

You never could volunter to be DRAFTED..Draft is involuntary..


109 posted on 03/29/2007 4:43:38 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: silentreignofheroes

Wake up and read the thread, rookie.


110 posted on 03/29/2007 4:45:33 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Tell me that to my face.!!I'll gladly shake your hand..


111 posted on 03/29/2007 4:51:14 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: neodad

Hubba Hubba, gotta give it up for the Sun City...
Man do I miss the Cattlemen's out in Fabens and the State Line out on...well, the State Line!


112 posted on 03/29/2007 4:53:31 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (I'm Starting a new cultural movement: Calling STUPID when I see it.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

Naw, I was an Aviation Electrician...


113 posted on 03/29/2007 4:53:48 PM PDT by shorty_harris
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To: silentreignofheroes

First you tell me to kiss you lily white ass and now you want to shake my hand. Make up your mind.


114 posted on 03/29/2007 4:55:00 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: shorty_harris

My last 22yrs. with the Gov. was at Rucker working on the Sims..But electronics is electronics..,,, an electron can only flow one way unless unconventional electronics is taught,, which was thrown at us...


115 posted on 03/29/2007 4:57:57 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Bender2

My Dad retired a CW4 after 22 years of service. The way he explained the commissions is Warrent Officers are commissioned by the Sec Def while Commissioned Officers are commissoned by the POTUS.


116 posted on 03/29/2007 5:00:16 PM PDT by Bayou City
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To: operation clinton cleanup; YellowRoseofTx
The standards have changed over time.

During the draft, there was no college requirement to qualify for OCS. You just had to pass the aptitude test, the physical and a very brief psychological evaluation. Now, however, most OCS applicants must have a college degree although some exceptions are made for enlisted personnel who have otherwise distinguished themselves.

If you got through the 6-month OCS (which had a very high drop out rate, often 50% or more) you received a "commission" as an officer in the US Army.

A "commission" (as opposed to a "Warrant") has a very specific connotation. It is issued on behalf of the President of the United States and conveys to the "commissioned" officer certain rights and priviledges which the "warrant" officer does not receive.

117 posted on 03/29/2007 5:08:21 PM PDT by O6ret
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To: AzSteven; Rodney King
Chief Warrant is a pretty impressive rank - warrant officers are effectively officers but are not commissioned as such. They don't really command but they perform important technical tasks that might oridinarily require a commissioned officer to deal with. For example, helicopter pilots are often warrants.

CW3s and above though still called Warrant Officers are officially Commissioned officers under the new rules. 2LTs find out in a hurry that crossing a CW3 or higher is the dumbest and most painfull of actions in what could be a VERRRRRRRRyyyyy shortened tour of service. Not only will they get their butts chewed on "with all due respect SIR!" but CW3s and up usually have the General's ear.

118 posted on 03/29/2007 5:10:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: leadpenny

Forget it ... Must have ticked you off...Not worth it...!Have a good life..


119 posted on 03/29/2007 5:11:13 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: SandRat
CW3s and above though still called Warrant Officers are officially Commissioned officers under the new rules.

I haven't heard that. 'course I haven't stayed up with the Army Times for years.

120 posted on 03/29/2007 5:13:53 PM PDT by leadpenny
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