Posted on 03/23/2007 11:04:16 AM PDT by bd476
Edited on 03/23/2007 12:04:27 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Please, be serious. Bush has rubber stamped more pork than any president in history.... for him to finally find a veto stamp for PORK on this bill will just wind up being used against him. He had pleanty of reason to veto it, to even bring the word PORK into this veto will just end up setting up another round of attacks on him.
Just stand up and say "I VETOED it because I will not sign any legislation that attempts to set a time table in an ongoing war, period."
Taking a shot at GW when Pelosi and CO, pass a nutjob bill that will only strenghten our enemies to kill us and more of our troops is nuts. Did I miss where you mentioned ANYTHING ABOUT PELOSI in your post?
This is serious and the demonrats are about to truly hurt America, our military, and our military families, if this move by the demonrats isn't reversed.
Well, almost never, LOL.
Dems think they've "won" something. They haven't. Bush lays a smackdown on them. We'll see how this plays out. I think the Dems are trying to do too much. They ladled a bill with pork to get both the liberal kook fringe and the moderate conservatives who were just elected. Republicans should have not problem portraying this for what it is - Politics when troops are in harm's way.
THIS is when the President is at his best.
it may be too late, I heard and read a date of April 15
We're trying to use the supplemental to end the war," said Obey, chairman of the Appropriations Committee and sponsor of the legislation that would end any combat role for U.S. troops by Aug. 31, 2008. "You can't end the war if you're going against the supplemental. It's time these idiot liberals understood that!"
"As another protester joined Richards, Obey continued: "That bill ends the war! If that isn't good enough for you, you're smoking something illegal. You've got your facts screwed up. We can't get the votes! Do you see a magic wand in my pocket? We don't have the votes for it. We do have the votes if you guys quit screwing it up. We do have the votes to end the legal authority for the war, that's the same as de-funding it."
I believe that they will not provide a clean bill by April 15. We are going to have some sort of showdown with the WH providing some concessions in order to get the funding.
AlGore once botched our e pluribus unum motto by saying it meant "out of one, many."
I agree with your premise completely, but the outcome is radically different than your view. The RATS will ultimately send the President a clean supplemental with no timetables, because they face political suicide if they don't. He can veto and veto and veto until they send him an acceptable bill. These freshmen RATS know that Pelosi cannot protect them next November -- they'll bolt in a New York minute, and there is a good possibility that Nancy will lose control of the House altogether.
The President of the United States can tell the American people that the blood of American soldiers is on the hands of Democratic leaders in the House and Senate who want to micromanage this war, defund this war, and load the emergency funding with pork.
The White House is holding all the cards on this and both the RATS and the MSM know it. There is no need for the President to compromise on this in any fashion.
Maybe Fox News and Sean H. will use it too.
Take no moonbat prisoners!
if he vetoes it, they will say that it was none other than GWB who denied funds for the troops.
You need to take your bush bot blinders off and actually read what I have stated on this. Dems had to bribe out the wazoo to get this bill to pass, because the Blue Dogs don't like it and know they will pay a political price in their home states for voting for it.
Bush vetoed it, good, as he should, but he didn't have to even mention the word "pork" in order to do so... by doing so he just opens up criticism on his record on this topic, instead of just sticking to the war.
Sorry, thats my assessment, if you think that makes me a liberal, then you definately need some help. If you think honest criticism of your side is not allowed, then I think you have far more in common with the liberal side of the isle than you realize.
Bill was a horrible bill, and it should and was vetoed... Bush even bring the word "pork" into the justification for his veto was a bad political move.... Vetoing it because it would harm our troops and efforts is more than enough reason.
Well, when you are President, you can not say the word pork.
You need to clean your GW is EEEEVVVIIIIILLLLL glasses and attack the real source of the madness. If your dog bites you, you do not kick the cat, unless you are a dumbass.
Truer words were never spoken. And the DBM will parrot the dems action. I doubt this bill will pass in the Senate however.
Let them try this line of reasoning with the American people. The American people may be upset with Bush over Iraq, but no plausible person will believe that he wants to defund the troops. The President of the United States owns the bully pulpit on this issue.
This may be a silly question, but just exactly who are the Democrats "scoring political points" with? Their base?
Good for Bush. He needs to really stick it to the Democrats and all those that oppose fighting this WOT the RIGHT way. May God bless that man and give him the strength he needs to fight the battle.
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