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Lawmaker wants to pay women for choosing adoption over abortion (TX Senator Dan Patrick)
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Posted on 03/23/2007 8:26:10 AM PDT by Princip. Conservative

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Interesting approach from a conservative GOP state senator in Texas. Whether it goes anywhere is another thing, but it's an interesting idea.
1 posted on 03/23/2007 8:26:12 AM PDT by Princip. Conservative
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To: Princip. Conservative

Works for me.


2 posted on 03/23/2007 8:28:05 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Princip. Conservative

Actually, I say that. But there WILL be people who will intentional have repeated babies for $500 for meth/crack.


3 posted on 03/23/2007 8:28:54 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Princip. Conservative

I like the South Carolina approach, where they want to require women to view the ulrasonic picture of the baby prior to authorizing any abortion. That would have quite an effect.


4 posted on 03/23/2007 8:29:31 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Princip. Conservative

Well, it's better than using taxpayer $$$ to pay for abortions...


5 posted on 03/23/2007 8:29:38 AM PDT by LIConFem (Fred Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Duncan Hunter 2008 (VP) ACUR: 92)
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To: Princip. Conservative

My guess is you'll end up with a bunch of babies nobody wants to adopt.


6 posted on 03/23/2007 8:30:20 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Princip. Conservative

Anything that saves the lives of unborn babies is good.

Baby buying shouldn't be a concern if everyone makes the same amount, and the money is paid out of public coffers.

My only concern is whether this might some encourage some women (or young girls) to get pregnant, in order to collect the cash. You wouldn't think so, considering it is only $500, but some people do not think logically.


7 posted on 03/23/2007 8:32:16 AM PDT by dinoparty
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Trust me on this- there is no such thing as a newborn baby whom nobody wants to adopt.
8 posted on 03/23/2007 8:32:24 AM PDT by Eepsy (The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Eepsy

Is that true? Even "crack babies"?


9 posted on 03/23/2007 8:35:39 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Princip. Conservative

Here's a better idear:

Democrats claim that they want abortion to be legal, safe and rare.

Well if that's true, let's put a $1000 tax on all abortions.


10 posted on 03/23/2007 8:35:45 AM PDT by proudpapa (Forget Rudy McRomney it's Duncan Hunter in '08!)
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"Well if that's true, let's put a $1000 tax on all abortions."

Paid by the doctor performing the same.


11 posted on 03/23/2007 8:37:57 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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Lets PAY people NOT to kill?

I've never killed anyone.....how much do I get?

12 posted on 03/23/2007 8:39:00 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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I've seen many couples go to great lengths, time, and expense to get babies from Eastern Europe, when there aree are plenty of babies here to adopt.


13 posted on 03/23/2007 8:40:28 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Princip. Conservative

A well meaning idea, but stupid.
I suggest instead giving $1000 to every married couple who brings a child into the world live.


14 posted on 03/23/2007 8:43:21 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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My best friend has adopted two babies from druggie moms; the second was six weeks premature and barely weighed 4 lbs. Thank heavens they've grown up without serious iissue, but she and her husband knew it was a crap shoot and went through with it anyway.


15 posted on 03/23/2007 8:53:33 AM PDT by Eepsy (The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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there WILL be people who will intentional have repeated babies for $500 for meth/crack.

Because of this, the proposal may actually INCREASE abortions, depending on the amount of women who initially get pregnant for the financial incentive, then later change their minds and have an abortion. I don't think he thought this through.

16 posted on 03/23/2007 8:55:25 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (Gingrich '08)
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---I suggest instead giving $1000 to every married couple who brings a child into the world live.---

Don't we kind of already do that with the child tax credit? And then for every year up up until they're 17? I don't think this'll work, but I don't want abortions supported either.


17 posted on 03/23/2007 9:04:47 AM PDT by swatbuznik (Hunter '08 --apostrophes optional)
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Okay, uh...nevermind. I didn't think that through. Please ignore it.


18 posted on 03/23/2007 9:05:31 AM PDT by swatbuznik (Hunter '08 --apostrophes optional)
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To: Princip. Conservative

Uh, I see a small problem with this. Need cash? Get pregnant, give baby up for adoption, collect $500. Rinse, repeat.


19 posted on 03/23/2007 10:21:47 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Hillary: "We are going to take from you.. to provide for the common good")
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To: Princip. Conservative; All

Let's see; might it save some babies? Yes.

Do I care that the mother may bypass abortion for the money and not for the moral choice I believe she should make?
For her, yes, for the baby, no.

The baby gets to have its life whether or not the mother's life is reordered by the experience.

I think it is even possible that simply on being told that the state will pay $500 if they avoid an abortion, some pregnant single young women will be moved to rethink their position regarding abortion and regardless of the $500.


20 posted on 03/23/2007 10:47:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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