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Judge warns of child-abusing homeschoolers
World Net Daily ^ | March 10, 2007 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/11/2007 11:50:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: jude24
Compulsory schooling isn't about learning. It never has been.

Sure it was. In the "Old Deluder Satan Law," officially called the Massachusetts Education Law of 1647 established a compulsory education system (every town with 50 families had to hire a teacher...

Even the entry from Wikipedia says that "As a practical matter this law did not require towns to have schools, as very few towns in the Massachusetts of 1647 had at least one hundred families, nor did it require young people to attend school."

My point is that compulsory attendance laws didn't take off until the great Irish immigration scares of the 1800s, when compulsory attendance laws were used to force the children of poor Irish Catholic immigrants into the Protestant government schools.

This is the history of the Know Nothings, and the Blaine amendments that were added to most state constitutions. The high point of the movement was reached in the late 1920s, with the SCOTUS case of KKK vs. Society of Sisters, where the Oregon KKK tried to outlaw private (i.e., Catholic) schools.

The model for these government schools, which were formed in the mid-1800s, was Prussian. Horace Mann praised these schools (which he never saw in operation) in his testimony before the Boston school board.

Industrialists like Carnegie and Rockefeller supported and further refined the Prussian model of schooling, because it produced compliant drones for industry. The advent of behavioral psychology at roughly the same time had a profound effect upon the teacher colleges that were being set up, thus dooming generations of children to educational "laboratories."

The history of compulsory schooling in America is uniformly bleak, from beginning to end.

161 posted on 03/13/2007 11:03:36 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: EternalVigilance
In today's threatening world, where we seek to protect children from abuse, not just physical, but also educational abuse

The Collectivist Speaks - and redefines non-compliance with the State as impermissible deviance.

Bolshevik bullying and brainwashing, nothing more.

162 posted on 03/13/2007 11:10:19 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: jude24
The reductio ad Hitlerum logicla fallacy strikes again.

The evidence points to a causal relationship. Only someone willfully blind could miss the connection.

Leading Nazis, and early 1900 influential German biologists, revealed in their writings that Darwin’s theory and publications had a major influence upon Nazi race policies. Hitler believed that the human gene pool could be improved by using selective breeding similar to how farmers breed superior cattle strains. In the formulation of their racial policies, Hitler’s government relied heavily upon Darwinism, especially the elaborations by Spencer and Haeckel. As a result, a central policy of Hitler’s administration was the development and implementation of policies designed to protect the ‘superior race’.
Darwinian beliefs were promulgated in the compulsory German schools.
163 posted on 03/13/2007 11:15:38 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: longtermmemmory

SAT/ACT homeschoolers:
http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/hslda/200105070.asp

Standardized test scores homeschoolers:
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000010/200410250.asp


164 posted on 03/13/2007 2:02:16 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wintertime
Many states do have mandatory testing of home-schoolers. In Virginia, each home schooler is required to show progress via an objective instrument or a portfolio of work presented to the superintendent of the county/city in which the students reside. The most popular test is the Stanford - 9.
165 posted on 03/13/2007 2:51:23 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

objective instrument **or*** a portfolio of work

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Having submitted many portfolios, I testify that a portfolio is **not** mandatory testing.


166 posted on 03/13/2007 2:59:27 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: metmom
The average SAT score for a home schooler is only around 1100?? I would have thought it would be significantly higher - well into the high 1200's.

Yeah I know it is higher than the average of the public school, but less than 100 points higher. The average SAT for public school kids was a 1019.

My public school kid got a 1410 with no prep on the verbal and about an hour of prep for the math - and that was while preparing for All States on her instrument, carrying 5 AP classes, volunteering 10 hours a week at the Free Clinic, and practicing 3 hours a day, 6 days a week for a varsity sports team.

167 posted on 03/13/2007 3:03:00 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: wintertime
How many parents would go through the effort of putting together a portfolio showing a child's progress through each required subject every year and hauling it down to the public school system for exhibition when the kids can walk in, take a test that lasts a few hours, totally smoke it and go home happy?

Especially when these very same parents left the public school system..... I'm thinking few to none.

168 posted on 03/13/2007 3:05:59 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Aquinasfan
The only place where I was in danger as a child was in school.

Same here, and I went to Catholic school.........

169 posted on 03/13/2007 6:05:21 PM PDT by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: Aquinasfan; wintertime
And why do public school teachers send their kids to private schools, at twice the rate of the rest of the population? So many mysteries.

Actually it's politicians who make the decisions about public schools who do that at a higher rate than the rest of the population.........wonder why????

170 posted on 03/13/2007 6:09:13 PM PDT by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: Clintonfatigued
and what is your source of information or fact that has brought you to this conclusion?

as a biological unit, I realize that there is always the possibility that abuse may occur. But this "nazi in robes" judge needs to realize that the state is no source of credible information and not just because it is New Jersey (although that in it's self is reason enough to be suspect of information) but the fact that NJ has a history of being anti-freedom.

171 posted on 03/14/2007 1:06:43 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ("People shouldn't fear the governments, governments should fear it's people!" "V")
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