Posted on 03/09/2007 8:10:02 AM PST by cryptical
Edited on 03/09/2007 10:38:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Are you really saying that calling someone an "a-hole" (censored version) is holding back? Swapping $ for S didn't make it any better. You were getting pretty rude there for a bit.
I have low expectations of RP based on experience. Don't get uyour hopes up, either.
Well listen to you. Before I ever posted to you, here's how you introduced yourself to me: "Try reading the ruling before opening your mouth", "making stupid asumptions", "wipe off my computer screen".
In my first post to you I acknowledged my mistake by saying "my bad". Quite civil, despite your tone.
Oh, but you looked at that as an invitation to be even more abusive, saying that I had "little knowledge of the law" and I should "do a bit more studying and research." You followed that with your bitchy little summary capped with "who's the real idiot here?"
It was only at that point that I responded to you in kind.
So, in summary -- you condescending little a$$wipe -- take your advice about "winning over people" and stick it.
You used the "idiot" term against another poster first. You were being rude to everyone here. Nowhere did I descend to profanity. You alone went there. In short, you did indeed start it.
As for others, you were getting a lot of basic things wrong, and yet, you were being just as rude as rude can be on this thread. How do you expect people to respond to that?
BTW, pointing out those inaccuracies is not nitpicking. It wasn't a case of you saying, for example, that something costs $23.53 and someone else jumping on you and saying it costs $23.54. The facts being debated were a bit more important than that.
It has become apparent to me that you love to argue, but for tonight, I'm done.
Reasonable restrictions also might be thought consistent with a well regulated Militia. The registration of firearms gives the government information as to how many people would be armed for militia service if called up. Reasonable firearm proficiency testing would both promote public safety and produce better candidates for military service.
If they want people eligable for the militia to submit their names and contact info, that is one thing. They don't need an inventory of your equipment.
Also, they may want proficiency testing for membership in the "organized" militia, but not as a condition to own "arms".
You are not on "our" side. From post #664:
QUESTION: "Do you believe the Second Amendment protects an individual right or a collective right?"
Your reply: It protects the ability of a state to form a militia from federal infringement. I guess that makes it a collective right, though it's really an individual right applied collectively.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Agreed, but what I posted is from the majority opinion.
My contention is only that it can be lawfully removed from some individuals.
A) A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
B) The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Basically, you're saying that "A" and "B" are the same thing. Identical, really.
Then why all the extra words in "A"? Madison thought it would look cool?
My opinion is based on the vast majority of court opinions. What are you going on, feelings?
It is misleading to say that everyone would "then" have no protection against such infringments on the RKBA. There is no federal protection against state and local infringments "now". You already conceded that a SCOTUS decision saying that the RKBA was NOT an individual right wouldn't affect state laws - Post #607
That is covered pretty well in the decision. Sorry it shoots down your entire posting history on this forum.
You were asked for your view of the Second Amendment, not your view of how courts have interpreted it.
What are you going on, feelings?
The plain meaning of the language, Sarah.
Mayor Fenty is outside of himself over this - surprise, surpise. At least Anthony Williams didn't seem to fly off the handle so easily. But then this is a mayor who protests DC congressional non-voting representation by dissing the First Lady and going to Pelosi's box instead during the State of the Union as if the President can legislate such things and Congress cannot. Clueless.
Unfortunately, In my humble and ignorant opinion it doesn't have nearly that much potential. The VPC is just trying to drum up hysteria in the anti-gun ranks in order to raise more money from the kooks and gun control freaks who support it financially.
The decision is actually quite narrow in scope. If I correctly interpreted what I read of it, it is tailored to strike down only those sections of the DC law that (A) prohibited registering a handgun unless it had been previously registered prior to a certain date in 1976, which in effect made it impossible to legally possess a handgun brought into the D.C after that date, and (B) mandated that a gun in the home be kept partially disassembled or made non-functional in some other way, and (C) prohibited a handgun to be carried anywhere at all, including from room to room of the owner's home.
OTOH if the VPC ranting is right, my ignorant opinion is wrong, (hope hope) and the SC grants a writ of certiori to a D.C. appeal of this decision, that situation would have the potential to give new life to the moribund 2nd Amendment and the VPC's worst nightmare could conceivably become reality. May God in his infinite wisdom and perfect justice grant that it turn out that way.
you are equating Jim Crow laws with owning a gun??
Or weaker.
Lets do a survey of DC and I bet you would find out this:
90% of people that have a gun, shouldn't.
and 90% of people that don't have a gun, are robbed.
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