Posted on 03/08/2007 10:53:12 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
And I've said nothing of the sort.
I never said you did.
Nor does the article.
It most certainly does:
"Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich acknowledged he was having an extramarital affair even as he led the charge against President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair......."
>>>>>Rudy married his "other woman".
Big deal. And they both made an oath to the prior wife to marry "till death do us part." Both Gingrich and Giuliani were adulterers then, and are living in a state of adultery now: "It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife must give her a bill of divorce.' But I say to you, whoever divorces his wife (unless the marriage is unlawful) causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
For many people it was about his "personal life" in the publicly paid-for-office with the the publicly paid-for intern. The Grand jury lies just pointed up his lack of honesty.
All these politidcians with their boringly repetious infidelities are foolish to think they can get the GOP nomination in the face of 20% of the GOP voters who will not vote for them and another 20% that are rendered incapable of enthusiasm.
Which is why I'm betting that Romney (or some yet-to-emerge darkhorse) will overtake these guys.
http://www.australianpolitics.com/usa/clinton/impeachment/apology.shtml
What I want the American people to know, what I want the Congress to know is that I am profoundly sorry for all I have done wrong in words and deeds. I never should have misled the country, the Congress, my friends or my family. Quite simply, I gave into my shame. I have been condemned by my accusers with harsh words. And while it's hard to hear yourself called deceitful and manipulative, I remember Ben Franklin's admonition that our critics are our friends, for they do show us our faults. Mere words cannot fully express the profound remorse I feel for what our country is going through, and for what members of both parties in Congress are now forced to deal with. [...]
My point was that in the original post, the poster said that other biblical leaders had great moral failings and were still great leaders with respect to Gingrich. I was just pointing out that the same criterion would also apply to Clinton.
And, oh yes, by the way he also had an affair, just like Newt did. But Clinton did it in the Oval Office and with an intern who worked for him.
And Gingrich did it with a woman who was married to someone else. And he also did it with a member of his Congressional staff. I don't see Gingrich grabbing the moral high ground here.
"You're the one spinning this as a conspiracy (Newt and Dobson's)."
What in the heck are you talking about???
longtermmemmory was suggesting this was all a NY/MSM thing, when in fact Newt went to Dobson. All I was saying (and others agree) is that Newt wanted this out -- and it is. So what?
That was democrat Jim Wright.
Yes, the left can get away with their moralless behavior as they basically support wild lifestyles and behavior. It shouldn't be right and people should be more informed of the fact those are not good people for leadership. But Newt is done in by the fact he embraces social conservatism and yet has led a very questionable life in regards to adultery and, the part that does him in for a national election, he did it during his leadership position as Speaker. He doesn't sit well with the publi and, frankly, he has been a hypocrite. He is better than Rudy. But there are candidates better than Newt for conservatives to go to.
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