Posted on 03/07/2007 6:28:29 AM PST by MadIvan
Horsehocky.
Do you know any gay folks? Have you asked any gay folks how they feel about being called a faggot by someone that doesn't like them?
Ronald Reagan defined hippies as people who "dress like Tarzan, have hair like Jane, and smell like Cheetah." And he was loved for it!
And that's what Ann did, so she goofed, agreed?
Yes and no. She did link it to the Breck girl, and he does look and act like a faggot, so I suppose she has the right to state her opinion, but on the other hand he is married to a woman, so her comment made no sense.
Her real issue was the censorship of words that allow a people to express themselves, and she was 100% right about the rehab thing.
I guess I'd have to say she was 90% correct to say what she said, but 10% in error about how she delivered it. It caused confusion.
It makes absolutely no sense to build a ruling "conservative" coalition if doing so means "conservative" has to become something else to build it.
We may lose, but so will the RINOs, and that's better than helping them win.
Okay, if I must, oh great final-word-on-everthing Mr. Silverback, I'll answer your question, which was:
So let me get this straight...you think it's intellectualism and smugness to say it doesn't do the conservative movement any good to go around calling a faithful husband a faggot? .
No. Try to keep up. What I'm saying is that 'highball' used the very same type of PERSONAL attacks that he was condemning Ann for using. ARe you a Breck Girl too? Am I harming the conservative movement by using those words? Maybe "Breck Girl" should be banned?
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
Thank you!
So does everybody like you? Should we mandate that everyone like you? Should we outlaw anyone who says something you don't like about you? How about calling someone stupid or booing at a ballgame or calling someone asshole? You mamby pamby feel good "republicans" are going right down the socialist hole and insist we go with you.
"Ronald Reagan defined hippies as people who "dress like Tarzan, have hair like Jane, and smell like Cheetah." And he was loved for it!"
That's mocking / poking fun, not being vulgar. Not the same things.
My best friend growing up is gay. We grew up together - he's like my brother. As a kid I had many fist fights defending him, and not one of them had anything to do with the word fag. One of my first cousins is gay.... But we aren't talking about a gay person being called a fag now are we?
Another point. Medved is a good conservative. I agree with him on 99 percent of things. I wouldn't throw him under a bus either because I don't agree with him on this.
So do you allow your children to call black folk 'nigger'?
THAT is racism. It does NOT mean a black person. Racists only used it to describe the blacks. You've been brainwashed by PC. Anyone who assumes it means "black people" has a problem.
Contemptible, inferior, ignorant, a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.
Edwards, in my opnion, is an egotistical, hypocritical, lying phony who is wide open for harsh criticism. But why use a bigoted term that impugns millions of people who are not John Edwards?
She should accept that she made a mistake and apologize. How refreshingly rare that would be for a public figure.
An iconoclastic, South Park Republican thrill.
Next question.
BTW...N-word = race: definite no-no.
F-word = behavior
Failure to recognize the difference is prima facie evidence of demagoguery.
Oh, vulgar. Oh, I see now. We can't be vulgar. Go it. What's next? We've lost. Soon we'll be like France and won't be able to videotape violence.... Our enemies call us every name under the sun and we have our panties in a bunch because Ann was "vulgar."
She called a guy 'faggot'. Which is an insult, and fighting words.
Gays and straights alike consider that an insult when used in that manner. Her 'point' was she doesn't think it's fair that 'faggot' is like 'nigger'.
She's wrong, and she just goofed.
Faggot and nigger have the same effect. If you walk into a gay bar and go up to a big, strong gay guy and say, "I can't stand you faggots", you're going to get into a fight.
A hair-pulling, scratching cat fight, probably -- but still! :-D
Why couldn't she say that and just say she was using terms that are used by people of Obama's race to describe him? I haven't seen a single argument in her defense on this thread that wouldn't apply to it. If the word "faggot" applied to a guy who has been faithful to his wife for 29 years is something that will advance the Reagan Revolution, why not the N-word applied to a guy some people in the ghetto would describe as an N-word?
And what if she just dispensed with the N-word and said he was unqualified to be president because of his humongous Baby New Year ears? Would that have been good for conservatism and reinforced her point about semantic totalitarianism?
In politics it is, it's use does nothing to advance the conservative agenda.
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It's just simple. If you go into a bar and go up to some faggot and say, "Move your ass, faggot", you're going to start a fight.
And you folks are proving you'll defend anything, no matter how indefensible.
Funny stuff!
I notice the left never said a word when more than one liberal Senator has, in a fit of rage, called a fellow Senator a faggot right in the Senate chambers.
Personally, I think the word is distasteful and shouldn't be used by anyone. But it is very hypocritical of the left to criticize Ann but remain silent when members of the Dem party use the same word.
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