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Libertarian, Constitution Party Leaders endorse Ron paul for President (2 Articles)

Posted on 02/28/2007 4:50:41 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian

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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Over the past four elections, the Libertarians have averaged a bit more than three tenths of one percent of the Presidential vote, while the Constitution/Taxpayer Party has averaged around one tenth of one percent. So even if they pooled their resources, on a good year they would be lucky to get one half of one percent, or probably less than a Nader type would pull from the Democrats. It's a long, hard road.


41 posted on 02/28/2007 5:30:53 PM PST by speedy
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

It's too bad the Republicans aren't the Constitution Party anymore.


42 posted on 02/28/2007 5:31:01 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Forbes was pretty good, and many libertarian Republicans backed him. I was leaning towards Gramm for a while. BTW, Gramm has endorsed his old buddy McCain.

I fully support Ron Paul.

http://electronpaul.blogspot.com


43 posted on 02/28/2007 5:32:27 PM PST by GOPlibertarian
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To: Old_Mil; Mojave; robertpaulsen
The libertarian and constitution parties endorsing the same candidate, despite the divide between the two camps?

I'm not surprised. Look at the trends here on FR. Small-l libertarians like me are aligned with the social conservatives, while meanwhile the "moderate" faction is bashing both groups. The same thing happened during the Arnold/McClintock wars.

44 posted on 02/28/2007 5:34:25 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: speedy
I think the Libertarians and Constitution Party will poll higher next year if Rudy is the GOP Nominee. I will not vote for a Presidential Nominee who favors Roe v. Wade -- not ever. Nothing will ever change my mind on that issue. I don't think I'm the only one, either.

On the other hand, the Libertarians and Constitution Party will poll independently lower if Ron Paul is the GOP nominee, because most of them won't be voting independent of the GOP except on local races.

45 posted on 02/28/2007 5:34:42 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Agreed.


46 posted on 02/28/2007 5:35:21 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: word_warrior_bob
It's too bad the Republicans aren't the Constitution Party anymore.

Hell, they aren't even the republican party anynmore.

47 posted on 02/28/2007 5:35:38 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Other than that, most FReepers have no real objection they can bring against Ron Paul.

I'm the first one to bash Paul on his inconsistency regarding the most recent Congressional resolution, but I'm still a big fan of his regardless. It amuses me to ask a Paul basher what he or she disagrees with him on when it comes to domestic issues. They try their damndest to deflect the conversation when you bring that up.

48 posted on 02/28/2007 5:37:16 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: GOPlibertarian
Forbes was pretty good, and many libertarian Republicans backed him.

I was a Forbes fan in 2000.

49 posted on 02/28/2007 5:39:15 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: jmc813

I think I remember reading a piece by Paul on his reasoning on Iraq. I believe it was something along the lines of "if we leave the border open for invasion, why even bother trying to fight bad guys overseas?". I was thinking the same thing in '04 when I decided not to vote for Jorge Bush.


50 posted on 02/28/2007 5:39:46 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Mary Carey 2008! We need better boobs in DC.)
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To: jmc813
You, and several like you, are a credit to your candidate, Duncan Hunter.

If he were only stronger on fiscal conservatism (sadly, he voted 0 for 19 on the Flake anti-pork amendments), he might well be my second choice. If Tancredo doesn't last (and I don't think he will), Hunter still might be my second choice.

51 posted on 02/28/2007 5:41:22 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

If Ron Paul is supported by the Constitution Party....thats the kiss of death from the evengelicals....why?

The Constitution party is anti-israel....they are consumned by "Replacement Theology"....in other words, todays Israel is not the Israel of the Bible.....grrrrrr


52 posted on 02/28/2007 5:42:18 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: George W. Bush
Republican Liberty Caucus, a national PAC to elect libertarian Republicans, did pretty well in the 2006 elections. Ron Paul is their longtime favorite.

Also, keep in mind that JimRob allows the RLC to host their forum here on FR.

53 posted on 02/28/2007 5:43:07 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

I do not believe any conservative would ever support a cut and run coward like Ron Paul.


54 posted on 02/28/2007 5:43:09 PM PST by John D
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To: The Drowning Witch

Might I ask you who your favorite Republican currently is for the nomination?


55 posted on 02/28/2007 5:44:57 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It's too bad. Libertarians finally find a republican they can get behind, and it's one that has absolutely no chance of winning the nomination.

This libertarian admirer of Paul is behind Duncan Hunter and you might just be surprised at how well he ends up doing.

56 posted on 02/28/2007 5:46:15 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: Halgr
If Ron Paul is supported by the Constitution Party....thats the kiss of death from the evengelicals....why? The Constitution party is anti-israel....they are consumned by "Replacement Theology"....in other words, todays Israel is not the Israel of the Bible.....grrrrrr

Actually, the Constitution Party's strongest base of support is Fundamentalist Christians like Chuck Baldwin.

I'm surprised you weren't aware of that.

As to "Replacement Theology" -- good grief, that's a charge which is bandied about by Dispensationalists against Amillennialists in theology debates; it really doesn't apply to a political debate over the Constitutionality of Foreign Aid.

57 posted on 02/28/2007 5:46:24 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: John D
I do not believe any conservative would ever support a cut and run coward like Ron Paul.

Ronald Reagan, who withdrew US Marines from the insanity of Lebanon in 1983, was always a strong Ron Paul supporter.

Was Reagan a Conservative?

58 posted on 02/28/2007 5:47:33 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: samm1148
The libertarian view is similar to the liberal one in that if we somehow just withdraw from world affairs then the bad old Moslems will leave us be. That is just not so. The Moslems need a scapegoat to keep their subjects' minds away from the unpleasant realities of their backward lives. I applaud Mister Paul for his views of limited government. Would that the republican party have pursued that line instead of the pale, limp-wristed imitation of their rivals.

Great post. If more freepers thought like you did, this would be a much more productive forum.

59 posted on 02/28/2007 5:48:02 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"Conservative" does not necessarily mean knee-jerk support for spending thousands of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars to prop up a ruling government of Iraq which is dominated by the psychopathic gang of murderers known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and the Islamic Al Dawa Party

I strongly disagree with your views on Iraq, but I will concede that ones views on such transcend the whole liberal/conservative spectrum. "Liberal" and "conservative" are terms to describe ones view on the role of government in domestic affairs. In the real world, I know plenty of liberals who support the war and a bunch of conservatives that oppose it.

60 posted on 02/28/2007 5:52:54 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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