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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

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To: Peach
In your opinion.

My opinion is that an Army Ranger is better prepared to fight a war than someone who did not serve in the military. I can't think of a logical reason otherwise.

1,741 posted on 03/01/2007 10:44:20 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: youngjim
withholding your vote from the party of Lincoln

The Party of Lincoln is slowly becoming the "Party of Social Liberal and Fiscal Liberal Republicans, aka RINOs." The party still maintains a platform that includes free speech, RTBA, smaller and limited government, pro family and pro-life but will abandon that platform in a heartbeat to "win one for the team."

The Republican Party is now the party of "Party over Principles". Tis a shame...the Republican Party was formerly a decent party.

"Nothing to see here...just keep moving (to the left).

1,742 posted on 03/01/2007 10:44:39 AM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: youngjim
is probative for thee being the RINO

Not it. I, like The Great One, Mark Levin, am a conservative, not a Republican.

1,743 posted on 03/01/2007 11:00:05 AM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: don-o; politicalwit

I appreciate your thoughtful posts; and apologize for my strident tone.

I would be interested to know what "the great one" Levin has to say on the matter and if either you can point me to a link or expound further on his positions for the upcoming Republican primary I would be happy to read/hear it.

Is his broadcast podcasted? (I can't listen to him live)


1,744 posted on 03/01/2007 11:06:18 AM PST by youngjim (I know Karma, Karma is a friend of mine, and she is indeed a very nasty woman.)
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To: Howlin; EternalVigilance
Actually, you registered there when they got the facts about you; we all saw it,

What sort of masochistic desire would drive you to voluntarily look at that crappy site?

1,745 posted on 03/01/2007 11:21:37 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: Guenevere; Al Simmons
..and the disrespectful tone you all have addressed to him is unconscionable.

In all fairness, Al Simmons has been polite and respectful not only to Jim but to most of the posters on this thread.

1,746 posted on 03/01/2007 11:34:21 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: MACVSOG68; Jim Robinson
Your 'definition' sounds suspiciously like the boortzian image of libertarianism. It has a circular quality to it that purposely omitted 'moral values' in order to focus upon denigrating religious values as passe. It also rings of democrat efforts to paint themselves as 'just as religious' as republican conservatives, while championing abortion on demand and societal engineering.

I agree that government, especially our government established to protect LIFE, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, has the main job to protect and should be minimized on other imperatives.

Thank you for your extensive response ... I am beginning to see Rudy as the preferred candidate of libertarians who remain in the republican party. With what you espouse for conservatism, that appears to be an explanation of why some Rudy supporters are so willing to compromise/drop treaditional conservative values as defining character in order to endorse Rudy. It might also explain the all or nothing approach at this too early point in the nomination campaign ... the 'teach them a lesson' mentality was pervasive from libertarians in the '06 election cycle. I do not think libertarians will be successful in taking control of the republican party for '08, but I could be wrong and republicans may end up being dumb enough or scared enough to accept the libertarian definition of conservatism.

1,747 posted on 03/01/2007 11:39:55 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Cold Heat
I was also a member of CP, where that word was coined.

Why, pray tell, would you choose to join such a miserable site?

1,748 posted on 03/01/2007 11:39:56 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: Howlin
Liar; you hacked it.

Trust me on this, it is extremely difficult to hack a private Yahoo group.

1,749 posted on 03/01/2007 11:45:05 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: Dane
Personally, I am supporting either Guiliani or Romney at the present moment

Welcome back. Why will you not consider Duncan Hunter?

1,750 posted on 03/01/2007 11:53:55 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: youngjim; Fudd Fan

Most gracious of you youngjim. I did not take your tone as strident at all.

Anyhow, Levin has not yet made a specific endorsement, nor do I expect him to. He did make the statement that he was Conservative, not Republican. To this point, I have not heard a lot on the matter, but he's not ignoring it either. McCain gets knocked around pretty good. What I have heard concerning Rudy is less direct, but still casting doubt on him as standard bearer.

You can listen on-line and the links are posted on the daily Lounge thread. It cranks up between 5:30 and 6:00 and there are links to get the internet stream. At marklevin.com there are also archived shows.

You could asl Fudd Fan to add you to the ping list as a reminder to join us.


1,751 posted on 03/01/2007 12:03:21 PM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
and also believes that the NCLB act is good law

That alone makes him a dope. I know approximately ten different teachers, some conservative, some liberal, most apolitical, and I've made a point to ask them all about NCLB. Every single one of them thinks that it is the most horrendous thing to happen to education.

1,752 posted on 03/01/2007 12:24:36 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Yep. Have you figured out why Ted Kennedy hates it?

Because it sucks?

1,753 posted on 03/01/2007 12:28:08 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: jmc813

Why does it suck? Would you rather your tax dollars fund schools that failed or succeeded?


1,754 posted on 03/01/2007 12:30:45 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: jmc813

Naturally. If I was an educator, working in a failing school, I'd be against it too, because my job would be on the line.


1,755 posted on 03/01/2007 12:32:09 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Why does it suck?

Because the federal government shouldn't be sticking their noses in a local/state issue. Can you please cite the section of the Constitution which authorizes NCLB?

1,756 posted on 03/01/2007 12:39:32 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Naturally. If I was an educator, working in a failing school, I'd be against it too, because my job would be on the line.

All but one of my teacher friends are, for better or for worse, tenured and have no chance at all of losing their jobs. They also work in Yuppieville Bergen County, NJ which already had high performing schools until the feds came along and f#$ked everything up with NCLB.

1,757 posted on 03/01/2007 12:41:59 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And also, the name, "No Child Left Behind" is gay as hell.


1,758 posted on 03/01/2007 12:42:40 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: jmc813
Because the federal government shouldn't be sticking their noses in a local/state issue. Can you please cite the section of the Constitution which authorizes NCLB?

It's not a Constitutional Amendment.

1,759 posted on 03/01/2007 12:43:42 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
and brand it into a conservative Republican issue.

NCLB is one of the most NON-conservative things Bush has done.

1,760 posted on 03/01/2007 12:45:18 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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