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Thinking Hard About Voting For Rudy Guiliani
The Bulletin ^ | Feb. 22, 2007 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 02/23/2007 7:05:51 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Al Simmons
Rudy has been tested in a real crisis and came through with flying colors, exhibiting the leadership that separates real presidential material from the phony demagogues like Hillary and Obama.
361 posted on 02/24/2007 12:54:48 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: EternalVigilance

Did you know Reagan spent half his life as a Democrat?

The horrors! (/sarc)


362 posted on 02/24/2007 12:56:05 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion

Pre-ci-se-ly!


363 posted on 02/24/2007 12:56:28 AM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: FairOpinion
Did you know Reagan spent half his life as a Democrat? The horrors! (/sarc)

Right. Back when there was still such a thing as a conservative Democrat. If only we Republicans could be as successful at finishing off our liberal wing...then we wouldn't be having to waste our time dealing with people like you and Giuliani. We could instead be united and preparing for the next election cycle like the Dems are doing right now.

364 posted on 02/24/2007 1:02:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Al Simmons

People who claim to be "the base" never were and never will be. They are the perpetual malcontent who either never vote or always find something wrong with the Republican candidate and vote third party.

Their claims and threats are just to bolster their own egos, trying to make people believe they are relevant.

REAL conservatives are smart enough and understand that the most important thing is to defeat the Democrats.

In CA, 92% of the Republicans voted for Arnold and 5% voted for socialist Angelides. Some Republicans! -- you say.

Wait until I get to the statistics about the "conservatives":

80% of Conservatives voted for Arnold

16% of Conservatives voted for Angelides !!!

Of course anyone actually voting for a leftist socialist Dem is NO conservative, despite their claim.


These are the same "conservatives" who bash Rudy and when the chips are down,not only will they stay home or vote third party, but actually dutufully will turn out and cast a vote FOR Hillary. And they are lecturing us! It would be funny, if the consequences weren't so serious.


http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/survey/S_1106MBS.pdf


365 posted on 02/24/2007 1:04:10 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: TakeChargeBob

"What state will Rudy lose that Bush won? "

Ohio could be a goner, for one. It's too early to predict. One thing I am confident of - Rudy is not our strongest candidate for the real race.

"This issue about divorces mattering might stick against some candidates. Not Hillary."

You presume. You are forgetting the 2004 Senate race in Arkansas. Senator Blanche Lincoln.


366 posted on 02/24/2007 1:04:55 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG

Rudy has a good chance of carrying CA, the same way Arnold won -- getting the independent votes. And if he does that, the Dem candidate is finished.


367 posted on 02/24/2007 1:06:08 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: spikeytx86
Gee I wonder why so many think we are bigots?

I wouldn't want the perverts around my kids... Bigot? Fine. I could care less...

368 posted on 02/24/2007 1:06:34 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yes, found it via townhall.com.
Pretty funny. I have a bush-halo pic too, so I take it as a sign. :-)

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=target_romney&ns=DeanBarnett&dt=02/24/2007&page=2


369 posted on 02/24/2007 1:09:02 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: FairOpinion

Marking your post #365 as one of the most pristine examples of RINO hack hubris I've ever laid eyes on. Congratulations on your creation!


370 posted on 02/24/2007 1:13:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Al Simmons
Rudy looks and talks rough - and I think this will play well vis-a-vis the WOT.

Looks rough? Talks rough? Come on... He is a small man who kisses the national media's rear end.

If you want to actually win the war, polite conversation with Tim Russert ain't gonna cut it...

371 posted on 02/24/2007 1:15:57 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: FairOpinion

So the morally upright wont vote for a family man with grandkids and successful business man over someone who goes to this church???

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/rush/070221

... but they'll vote for the guy who has all this going for him:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1775450/posts?page=9#9


372 posted on 02/24/2007 1:17:19 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: Al Simmons

The flipflop question has to be answered but is addressed here:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=target_romney&ns=DeanBarnett&dt=02/24/2007&page=2

"Romney is a bit too blow-dried too. Rudy looks and talks rough "
Aw jeez. It's about time we get someone who can *articulate* cogently leading the GOP. Newt or Rmoney are tops; Huckabee has been praised too. I dont see how McCain or Rudy do well there.


373 posted on 02/24/2007 1:19:30 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: FairOpinion
REAL conservatives are smart enough and understand that the most important thing is to defeat the Democrats.

The fancy Madison Avenue designer label isn't convincing enough for most thinking individuals... Myself, I am tired of being sold a pile of dung as mousse cake pate...

374 posted on 02/24/2007 1:20:26 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: WOSG
I won't vote for this guy either, even in the General Election:

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Financier Joins Pro-Gay Fundraiser To Host Mitt Romney San Diego Event

Mitt getting passionate about abortion - In his own words

375 posted on 02/24/2007 1:25:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: FairOpinion

Arnold won, but the GOP was / is decimated in California in the lege.

Is that what we can expect in Congress too? How does that help us? A moderate Prez and liberal Congress = liberal laws passed!!!

At least if the Democrats own the whole kit a kaboodle, they can be held responsible for their mistakes and be promptly kicked out next election.


376 posted on 02/24/2007 1:26:32 AM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: WOSG
Arnold won, but the GOP was / is decimated in California in the lege.

The Massachusetts GOP was left in its worst shape ever after Romney's four years as well:

Romney's dismal record as the Republican leader in Massachusetts

Romney pledged to build the Massachusetts Republican Party, but in fact he did almost nothing. During his tenure there were two elections for the entire Legislature (2004 and 2006). In each election the Republicans lost seats. Republicans now hold the fewest seats in the Legislature since the Civil War.

During the four years of Romney's tenure, the number of registered Republicans in Massachusetts fell by 31,000. During that same period, the Massachusetts Democratic Party gained 30,000. - Boston Globe 11/2/2006

In the 2006 elections, most offices were not even challenged by Republican candidates. In the November general election for the six statewide Massachusetts constitutional offices there were more Green-Rainbow Party candidates on the ballot than Republicans!

The party's slide has been so precipitous that Republicans yesterday did not contest 130 of 200 legislative seats, fielded a challenger in only three of 10 congressional districts, and put up fewer candidates for statewide office (three) than the Green-Rainbow Party (four). - Boston Globe, 11/8/2006

In 2006, while Romney was chairman of the National Republican Governors Association - a group dedicated to electing more Republican governors - his own hand-picked Republican successor as governor lost badly to the Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans have held the governorship in Massachusetts since 1990. Romney largely ignored the Massachusetts elections and spent most of the time during the campaign out of state building his presidential campaign. He came back and publicly campaigned for the Republican candidate the day before the general election!

"Locally, this is a rebuke to Mitt Romney and checking out within six months after being elected and having accomplished almost nothing," said [Jim] Rappaport [former chairman of the state Republican Party]. - Boston Globe, 11/8/2006

"Romney arrived on the scene with great promise, but is leaving the Republican Party here in shambles. Not only are the Republicans yielding the governor's office for the first time in 16 years, but registered Republicans have fallen by 31,000 since Romney took office, and their legislative presence is at historic lows. But it worked out fine for him: He is now chasing the prize he really covets, the presidency." - Boston Globe 11/8/2006

"The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday. The cause of death: failed leadership. The party is survived by a few leftover legislators and a handful of county officials and grassroots activists who have been ignored for years. Services will be public and a mass exodus of taxpayers will follow. In lieu of flowers, send messages to New Hampshire Republican voters warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney." - Boston Herald, 11/12/2006

The Mitt Romney Deception

377 posted on 02/24/2007 1:32:55 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Rudy or this clown?


378 posted on 02/24/2007 1:34:44 AM PST by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: Silly
Rudy or this clown?

Neither. Ever.

379 posted on 02/24/2007 1:36:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Silly

If Giuliani or Romney is the Republican nominee, I will work as hard against them as I do against Democrats. I fight for a set of principles, the principles that this site stands for, and they outweigh any party considerations.


380 posted on 02/24/2007 1:38:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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