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McCain: Iraq War Mismanaged for Years
Breitbart.com ^ | 2/19/2006 | AP Writer

Posted on 02/19/2007 1:01:10 PM PST by LM_Guy

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To: marlon

Is he still alive???


81 posted on 02/19/2007 4:34:25 PM PST by liveoak4 (Freedom isn't Free!!!)
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To: Irene Adler

Agree wholeheartedly


82 posted on 02/19/2007 4:40:06 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (Patron Saint of Mediocrity)
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To: proudpapa

Lincoln didn't mismanage the Civil War. He just couldn't find a Grant to run things until three years in. The clowns in charge of the Federal Army before that were incompetent fools.


83 posted on 02/19/2007 6:43:33 PM PST by driftless2
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To: motzman

Lincoln fired McClellan once and reluctantly rehired him because his replacements were even more incompetent than McClellan. Lincoln sent Little Mac many letters begging him to engage the Rebs. McClellan simply was not up to the task. Lee had utter contempt for McClellan and all the Federal generals in charge of The Army of the Potomac. But in Grant, Lincoln finally found his man.


84 posted on 02/19/2007 6:49:20 PM PST by driftless2
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To: LM_Guy

without agreeing or disagrreing with you, it couldn't have been the #1 reason. the # 1 reason is no spines


85 posted on 02/19/2007 6:55:33 PM PST by wny
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To: jwparkerjr

Yes...it actually is a credit to the power the MSM has lost that they could not swing the election in 2004...although like a snake...even though injured, very dangerous.


86 posted on 02/19/2007 7:10:35 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: jwparkerjr

"You have hit the nail squarely on the head! The repeated attempts by the MSM to discredit the administration and anyone or anything that has to do with it has been unprecedented. The same forces that systematically ignored, hid and under reported the criminal activities and just plan poor administration that was foisted on us by the Clintons simply threw it in reverse and used just the opposite tactics to obstruct any and every attempt by the Bush administration to return the White House and the Presidency to an even keel."

But President Bush appointing Bill Clinton to co-lead Katrina and Tsunmai relief efforts and joking in the State of the Union address that Bill Clinton is his father's favorite person doesn't help. Of course the liberal media is going to eat those moments up.


87 posted on 02/19/2007 7:46:49 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Irene Adler

They hadn't a clue it would be this difficult.

I'm still waiting to see the pre-war intel (Powell's speech to the UNSC in particular) validated. It hasn't been but people instead like to obfuscate with rusting artillery shells that were never the original issue.

I fault the Neo-Cons for not recognizing fundamental realities.

Sadly good intentions don't matter in the long run.




88 posted on 02/19/2007 8:24:12 PM PST by mgstarr (I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore.)
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To: LM_Guy
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89 posted on 02/19/2007 8:41:47 PM PST by TigersEye (Copperheads are infesting our country.)
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To: motzman

I agree, but that's hindsignt. Remember that a) the CONGRESS loved McClellan, and, more important, the SOLDIERS loved McClellan because he fed them and wouldn't fight unless he had overwhelming advantages (BTW, in terms of % of men lost as a share of total troops committed, McClellan ALWAYS beat Lee!! It's a little known fact that Lee and/or other Confederates in the first 12 major battles/campaigns except for Fredericksburg, always lost a higher percentage of men than the Union, and at Antietam, the Confeds lost a higher actual number). This isn't an argument for McClellan, only an observation that he looks worse in highsight. Also, who else was Lincoln to get? Grant wasn't free until July 1863.


90 posted on 02/20/2007 8:14:42 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: proudpapa

Some of those "cronies" were absolutely dictated by the Congress Lincoln needed to run the war. Black Dan Sickles, for example, was foisted on him by the Dems. Even so, the guys Lincoln did appoint exacted a far highter toll on the Confeds as a % of troops committed to battle in EVERY SINGLE MAJOR BATTLE except Fredericksburg---a toll that really doesn't speak that well of Lee and the Confederate generals. What that suggests is that if the political willpower was there, REGARDLESS of who Lincoln had heading the Army of the Potomac, they would have defeated the South eventually anyway.


91 posted on 02/20/2007 8:43:29 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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Also, who else was Lincoln to get? Grant wasn't free until July 1863.

Exactly. Mistakes are always made, and there are lots of reasons behind them. One is "it was the best we had at the time"
92 posted on 02/20/2007 8:59:19 AM PST by motzman (no matter how much you hate Rudy--the libs hate him more!)
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To: motzman

See post above, though: due to the attrition, if the pols in Washington had guts, the Union would have won eventually with Meade or some lesser light in command. The South was just losing too many men and horses in every go-around.


93 posted on 02/20/2007 9:10:11 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: FairOpinion

So the war has been run and won gloriously, then?


94 posted on 02/20/2007 2:00:12 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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