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Ithaca to celebrate Darwin's Birthday
Ithaca College News/Cornell University/Museum of the Earth ^ | 01/31/07

Posted on 02/09/2007 5:15:20 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Stultis

Darwin was a flaming racist, based on the first editions of OoS.

Also, Lincoln was more interested in preserving the Union than he was in freeing black slaves.

As a Southerner, I'm no huge fan of Lincoln.

Having said that, slavery was wrong, but let's not deify Lincoln or Darwin.



41 posted on 02/16/2007 7:31:06 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank
Darwin was a flaming racist, based on the first editions of OoS.

Darwin doesn't even mention human races or human evolution in The Origin of Species.

Try making something else up.

42 posted on 02/16/2007 11:50:37 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis

http://nightmareofdisbelief.com/common_origins.php


43 posted on 02/16/2007 1:42:01 PM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

That website is a Mohommedan one, but the Darwin quotes are still valid.


44 posted on 02/16/2007 1:42:55 PM PST by fishtank
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To: Aikonaa
Most of the findings in evolutionary psychology have been diametrically opposed to the general leftist view of human psychology and sociology

And, in biology generally the hard-left (which is of course the mainstream in Ithaca) spent over a hundred years rejecting Darwinian evolution in favor of Lamarkian varieties. Indeed Darwinists (proponents of Mendelian genetics and the "neo-Darwinian synthesis") were actually sent to the gulags by Stalin for rejecting "Lysenkoism" (a neo-Lamarkian pseudoscience).

45 posted on 02/16/2007 1:44:11 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: fishtank
Those quotes are from The Descent of Man and from Darwin's correspondence. As I said Darwin didn't mention human races of human evolution in The Origin.

Note that Darwin refers in those quotes to the "civilized" versus the "savage" races of mankind. IOW he was focusing on the cultural as opposed to the biological differences. So this is primarily a rejection of cultural relativism, something a FReeper should have no problem with.

At worst Darwin, at least in these quotes, fails to envision the savage races becoming civilized, and instead anticipates them being "replaced". That perspective is pretty easy to excuse, however, if you remember some of the things Darwin had seen for himself or heard of at close remove during his voyage on The Beagle.

Darwin had been in Argentina, traveling cross country extensively on horseback, at a time when whites were waging an explicit war of extermination against the indians. Likewise Darwin visited Australia not long after the aboriginies there and been decimated, and the Tasmanian natives fully exterminated save for a literal handful of individuals (who themselves would expire with no issue).

BTW, the governor of Tasmania literally organized hunts of the natives, ordering the settlers into long skirmish lines to traverse the country side shooting aboriginies on sight. Of course this man knew nothing of Darwin's yet-to-be-formulated evolutionary views. Indeed he was a pious, passionate and conservative Christian.

Darwin never approved the extermination of native peoples. He considered this odious and immoral. He was simply extrapolating from facts on the ground.

Elsewhere in the Descent of Man, where Darwin does address biological issues of races specifically, we learned that he considers the biological differences between human races to be trivial.

The full text of The Descent of Man is available many places online, for instance here. Read chapter seven "ON THE RACES OF MAN" for Darwin's actual view on the biological significance of race.

46 posted on 02/16/2007 2:50:14 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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