Posted on 02/08/2007 6:58:20 PM PST by Copernicus
Yes, basically. All the previous notions of the Founders was taken behind the barn and kilt with an axe by the great adoption of 1930's American socialism.
Conservatives have been traditionally railing against it ever since.
It's not dishonest, how is working to get a discount dishonest?
Now you're just making things up.
Who is talking about Type 03 holders? Not me. Not anyone else. Just you.
The rest of us are talking about Type 01 dealers. Those who acquire a Type 01 FFL to buy and sell guns, but only use it to buy guns at wholesale for themselves (and perhaps others)instead of going to a legitimate dealer and paying retail.
Now, you're telling me those legitimate dealers aren't upset by this practice?
What if they are? Are FFL's supposted to be some kind of government entitlement program?
Nope. Never saw it. Maybe you'd better point that out for me. Can you?
Geez Louise. For the gazillionth time, nobody's talking about repairing or customizing firearms. Of course it's not dishonest if all you are doing is repairing or customizing firearms.
We're talking about Type 01 DEALERS! Get it? DEALERS! NOT repairing. NOT customizing. DEALERS!
WTF? We're talking about DEALERS! Get it? DEALERS! Type 01 FFL DEALERS! Those who are aurthorized to buy and sell. DEALERS!
NOT collectors. Not repairers. NOT customizers. Type 01 DEALERS! Stay on topic.
"the BATFE unilaterally chose to limit "dealing" to storefronts with posted hours."
Link me to that, would you?
I understand. By the way, who said you had to rent retail space?
When it comes to acquiring a Type 01 FFL, Title 1 dealer, yes I am.
I think a Type 03 is just to buy. There's a whole bunch of Types. 9 or 12 or something like that.
Situational ethics? You don't seem to have any such qualms about it when it's the government doing it to claim they're "regulating commerce". Do you work for the government? What's the deal with all this concern about the retailers being upset? Was there some back room deal we don't know about that makes them think they're entitled to the exclusive right to sell firearms? What would be the purpose of that except to simply make firearms more expensive for the average citizen?
Bull. If I said, "Legit? No." then you'd have a point.
In my opinion, a person who acquires a Type 01 FFL just to buy guns cheaply at wholesale, with no intention of becoming a legitimate dealer, is being dishonest. He's cheating the legitimate dealers.
So what's your problem with them getting a Type 01 instead of a Type 03? What's the difference between them getting a Type 03 to buy, and getting a Type 01 to buy or sell, but not exercising the option to sell?
What's to prove? You buy a Type 01 FFL that says you intend to be a dealer, buying and selling guns, when your sole intent is to use that license to buy guns for yourself (and maybe a friend or two) at wholesale. That's not dishonest? Something needs to be proven here?
I have no doubt that you've accepted Jesus as your savior. Therefore, you're not a better or worse Christian than I am. We're both Christians, have both been saved, and will be having eternal political debates when we go home to God. ;-)
Then tell me you're a libertarian (or an Individualist or an Objectivist) and that you don't see a conflict at all between those philosophies and your faith.
I really, really, really don't want to start a Protestant/Catholic argument, so allow me to preface by saying that I have a world of respect for the Catholic Church, it's leadership and it's parishoners. I live in a predominantly Catholic area, most of my friends are Catholic, and I really respect the charitable works that the RC Church does.
That said, where you and I differ is that my faith is a "sola scriptura" one, in other words, we use the Bible alone in shaping our faith. While I respect the Catholic Chuch, I personally disagree with a faith that requires adherance to "man-made" rules. The scriptures point out the evils of this world and urge the reader to avoid sin at all cost and to repent to God when you succumb. The Bible does NOT advocate government interference in victimless sins.
My faith does, though respect the sanctity of life, and I would love to see abortion treated legally the same way murder is.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that you may be right, I may be wrong. Or I may be right and you may be wrong. But when it comes down to it, we both have been saved by our faith in Christ. We're both Christians. God doesn't give a crap about petty political issues.
Easily, since I never said they were.
The poster said FFL holders don't harm people. I agreed. I added that those who drink and drive don't harm others either.
I think that you can easily admit that much.
Just another part of THE LEGACY OF THE CLINTON'S.
The Co-Presidents want control, not just gun control.
Can you point to where is says that on the license?
All these different phrases to justify the dishonesty. "Working to get a discount". Good one.
Hard to believe this is a conservative forum sometimes.
You buy a Type 01 FFL that says you intend to be a dealer, buying and selling guns, when your sole intent is to use that license to buy guns for yourself (and maybe a friend or two) at wholesale. That's not dishonest? That's not cheating the legitimate dealers trying to make a living?
But, I suppose to someone like you, if it's legal that means FULL STEAM AHEAD!
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