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Man in Boston Scare Videotaped Police
Washington Times ^ | 2-6-07 | DAVID WEBER

Posted on 02/06/2007 11:20:52 AM PST by JZelle

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To: American_Centurion
Come on! Pile on more BS please! If Police officers NEVER, EVER, stood in traffic, I could see your point. They do it all the time... it's their job.

You can eat your BS and cry. Check the stats on the causes of death for police killed in the line of duty. Far more are killed on the roadway than killed by criminal violence. And I'm not talking about accicdents while they are driving, I'm talking about sitting in a cruiser or standing in the roadway.

It's nice that people raise money for vests, but we'd save more LEO lives if people paid more attention to officers on the shoulder or in intersections directing traffic.

61 posted on 02/06/2007 2:13:07 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: ricardobaltazar
Good afternoon.
"Pretty much all the mainstream forums I frequent think that Boston completely overreacted to the situation."

Well, of course, they did.

That has nothing to do with being ticked off by the videographer(SP?) and his scr*w you attitude. If the program is any good it will likely do well, but it will do well without many of us. I think it will have a short run and disappear.

I could be wrong, though. Look at how long it is taking Err America to go away.

Michael Frazier
62 posted on 02/06/2007 2:23:22 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville

Air America in Boston has changed its format to Mexican Music. Ironic, isn't it?


63 posted on 02/06/2007 2:36:13 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy
Good afternoon.
"Ironic, isn't it?"

And telling.

Michael Frazier
64 posted on 02/06/2007 2:40:55 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville
That has nothing to do with being ticked off by the videographer(SP?) and his scr*w you attitude. If the program is any good it will likely do well, but it will do well without many of us. I think it will have a short run and disappear.

I should have also added that the majority opinion that I've seen is that the guys that put up the signs are being pinned as the fall guys for the mistakes of a corrupt and incompetent government. The prosecution in this case tried to tell the judge that the suspects placed the light boards with the intention of causing a panic and disruption. That is an extremely ridiculous comment and it speaks to the idea that somebody is probably trying to cover their own asses on this one. Also, ATHF has been on for 7 years and 68 episodes and has a feature length movie coming out this year. Even if it ended right now, it's all ready had a good run.
65 posted on 02/06/2007 2:43:48 PM PST by ricardobaltazar
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To: 3AngelaD
And as far as the advertising goes, well, I thought the Cartoon channel was for kids

Far from it. The "Adult Swim" segment, of which this was a part, has "Parental Advisory: Mature Content" warnings that the content (rated TV-MA) is not appropriate for children. If you are sitting your little ones down in front of the Cartoon Channel to go do something else thinking it's safe content, you need to reconsider.

66 posted on 02/06/2007 2:50:08 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ricardobaltazar
Good afternoon.
"The prosecution in this case tried to tell the judge that the suspects placed the light boards with the intention of causing a panic and disruption."

Prosecutors do that kind of stuff. It's what several threads in the FreeRepublic are about right now.

Seven years, eh? A movie, eh? Good, a run like that will provide a good indicator of how much this irks people and how long the show will last now that the sun shines on it.

Michael Frazier
67 posted on 02/06/2007 2:59:05 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Doctor Raoul
What are you afraid of? Can't handle the situation?

Those are not 70s-hair questions.

68 posted on 02/06/2007 3:01:16 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Those are not 70s-hair questions.

He better lose the dreds. They are a liability in the joint.

69 posted on 02/06/2007 3:05:24 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

That skinny dude might also want to lose the goatee, just a hunch.


70 posted on 02/06/2007 3:10:46 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

LOL...


71 posted on 02/06/2007 3:18:29 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Eat your BS. Most often, accidents resulting in death on the job are a direct result of the tasks and duties of the job. Gardeners are most often killed by power gardening tools and lawnmower accidents, loggers are most often killed by falling objects, Electricians are killed by electricity, so it's no surprise at all that those who's jobs involve standing in the friggin road are most often killed on the job by STANDING IN THE ROADWAY!

These "devices" put none of the police officers into any kind of special circumstance that would warrant piling on with your BS.
72 posted on 02/06/2007 4:08:23 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Buddy, I handle myself just fine. Just wise to situation. An even wiser person than myself once taught me being right doesn't mean you win... took me a few classes to really understand that.

Hasn't your time in line at the Airport taught you that lesson yet? Tell that guy by the metal detector you don't need to remove your shoes because there is no bomb in them if you are so couragous.

It is your duty to help him be more efficient! He has mistakenly identified your shoes as a bomb. Correct him!
Save me the tax payer 5 seconds of his wage. What are you afraid of?

In a situation where the powers to be couldn't figure out your backpack doesn't have a bomb in it, tell me exactly who do you help by walking up and telling them that it is your backpack? The costs have already been incurred, and the process in place to incur the remaining. The ethical argument is not a utilitarian one between society and your own comfort. As if by "handling it" you will somehow save some money, or fear, or get the ambulance out of traffic or stop the inconvenience foisted on the masses by the press and one mistaken secret service member.

It is not one of honor or morality either, no one is in danger and you did not lie, correcting someone who believes you lied is arrogance, not etical behavior. Take the advice of the first guy you talk to in these situations. The one who says, "nothing to see here, move along."

-- lates
-- jrawk

P.S. Ever heard the phrase a Republican is a Democrat who has been mugged?

Well whats a Republican who has been mugged by the police?


73 posted on 02/06/2007 5:20:04 PM PST by jrawk (RAWK)
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To: APFel

A better question is why did it take Boston's finest 3 weeks to find a "BOMB" ?

Also I only pointed one finger... ;)

(Ok that was just a little topical humor people!)

Shop for the LED's not the batteries. That is where the power saving is going on! Plus they had a sensor that turned them off during the day. Clever really.

Look my point about the van remains valid. I walk around with electronics all the time. A lot of them look like bombs. It is my job. I don't need this kind of grief about anything with batteries and wires is a bomb hoax. The cops made a mistake. They just can't own up to it.

-- lates
-- jrawk


74 posted on 02/06/2007 5:34:43 PM PST by jrawk (RAWK)
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To: JZelle
Bumpin' thru..

Sean Stevens, 28 (L), and Peter Berdovsky, 27, are photographed during an arraignment inside Charlestown District Court in Boston, Massachusetts, February 1, 2007. Turner Broadcasting System on Thursday tried to quell a firestorm of controversy in Boston a day after a guerrilla marketing campaign for a cable television show was mistaken for a terrorist plot to bomb the Hub. Two local men -- Sean Stevens, 28, and Peter Berdovsky, 27 -- were released Thursday on $2,500 bonds after pleading not guilty in state court to charges of placing a hoax device and disorderly conduct. REUTERS/George Rizer/The Boston Globe


Sean Stevens, 28, left, and Peter Berdovsky, 27, speak to the media outside Charlestown District Court in Boston Thursday, Feb. 1, 2007 after pleading not guilty to placing a hoax device and disorderly conduct. One of the men criminally charged after placing blinking cartoon advertisements around the city videotaped a police bomb squad removing one of the electronic devices, but did not tell the officers the object was harmless. Surveillance cameras caught 27-year-old Peter Berdovsky videotaping officers removing what they thought was a possible bomb. (AP Photo/Bizuayehu Tesfaye, FILE)

75 posted on 02/06/2007 6:09:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: American_Centurion
so it's no surprise at all that those who's jobs involve standing in the friggin road are most often killed on the job by STANDING IN THE ROADWAY!

These "devices" put none of the police officers into any kind of special circumstance that would warrant piling on with your BS.

You just admitted cops get killed while standing in the road. It's a risk of their job.

This guy let the cops stop traffic which put them in the road and said nothing to stop that.

It's called logic. Learn it, live it, love it.

76 posted on 02/06/2007 7:03:38 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: jrawk
Buddy, I handle myself just fine. Just wise to situation. An even wiser person than myself once taught me being right doesn't mean you win... took me a few classes to really understand that.

Followed by 260 words of whining. Go back to school, you've learned nothing.

77 posted on 02/06/2007 7:05:29 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: jrawk
In a situation where the powers to be couldn't figure out your backpack doesn't have a bomb in it, tell me exactly who do you help by walking up and telling them that it is your backpack? The costs have already been incurred, and the process in place to incur the remaining. The ethical argument is not a utilitarian one between society and your own comfort. As if by "handling it" you will somehow save some money, or fear, or get the ambulance out of traffic or stop the inconvenience foisted on the masses by the press and one mistaken secret service member.

You really do have a lot invested in your fantasy world.

Been there, done that. Have seen people come along and claim their bag in the middle of the "investigation".

78 posted on 02/06/2007 7:09:32 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: JZelle
He was brainwashed by the Mooninites.

BTW, here's the real story of what happened...as reported by yours truly, heh heh...

79 posted on 02/06/2007 7:21:31 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel-Robert Frost)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

LOL!!!


80 posted on 02/06/2007 7:27:27 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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