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Rudy’s a No-Go
National Review ^ | 2/6/2007 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 02/06/2007 10:43:27 AM PST by ElkGroveDan

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To: everyone

A decent case can be made against Rudy, just as a good case can be made for him.

Jeffrey's column is pretty lame, though. The anti-Rudy people will need to do better.


221 posted on 02/06/2007 12:44:40 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

IF the Dems are smart, they would support Bill Richardson as their guy. Richardson signed a concealed / carry law. Thus he could get the NRA endorsement and carry a bunch of Southern states as well as making AZ and NV into play.


222 posted on 02/06/2007 12:45:05 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: hellbender

Saying Rudy's hawkishness is "hypothetical" is just plain wrong. He has been tough on it since Day One. Anyone who doesn't think Rudy, who has strongly backed Bush's war policies, isn't a hawk on security needs a dose of reality. No one has been a bigger supporter of Bush on his war policy than Rudy. Wake up !!


223 posted on 02/06/2007 12:45:28 PM PST by WillT
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To: ElkGroveDan

I voted for Arnold for CA Gov.......HUGE Mistake!
Rudy is a RINO. I won't be made a fool again even though I like him.


224 posted on 02/06/2007 12:47:46 PM PST by He'sComingBack!
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To: monocle
"If Giuliani is nominated his personal life will be made issue number one."
They are more than welcome. Start digging dirt - and in that field hillary would be not merely obliterated but cremated, atomized, flushed down the toilet and then whatever's left of her would be composted in a sewage treatment plant.
225 posted on 02/06/2007 12:48:07 PM PST by GSlob
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To: monocle
"If Giuliani is nominated his personal life will be made issue number one."
They are more than welcome. Start digging dirt - and in that field hillary would be not merely obliterated but cremated, atomized, flushed down the toilet and then whatever's left of her would be composted in a sewage treatment plant.
226 posted on 02/06/2007 12:48:07 PM PST by GSlob
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To: WillT

Rudy is waffling on the outrage called PBA, using the same loophole the rabidly pro-infanticide forces do.

And if you look at my post 177, you can see that I do not trust Romney either, although he is probably a stronger candidate in many ways than Rudy. He has no personal skeletons, and has extensive executive experience.


227 posted on 02/06/2007 12:48:28 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Kuksool

I see Richardson easily taking the DEM VP spot, especially if the Hillery/Obama battle gets worse...


228 posted on 02/06/2007 12:48:56 PM PST by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: GrouchoTex

There's no question if the race were Rudy Vs. Hillary, it's Rudy all the way. Any conservative who stays home during the election is handing the presidential seat to a real liberal. And then I don't want to hear the outrage and whining.


229 posted on 02/06/2007 12:49:09 PM PST by WillT
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To: flashbunny

Well, not voting for a Republican will help put MRS BILL CLINTON back in the White House. It is what it is.


230 posted on 02/06/2007 12:49:35 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: GSlob

Hitlery is immune to attack, except here in the vast right-wing conspiracy. Giuliani, however, will get no mercy from the MSM.


231 posted on 02/06/2007 12:50:10 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Post-Neolithic; Coleus; cgk

"GIULIANI: If it doesn't have provision for the mother I wouldn't support the legislation. If it has provision for the life of the mother I would support

Think that pretty well puts that "he doesn't support PBA" to rest."



"If it doesn't have provision for the mother I wouldn't support the legislation" makes it sound as if he would support it if there was a "health of the mother" exception. The "health of the mother" exception is an old trick of the pro-abortion crowd, since that exception basically ensures that no abortions are banned at all, since the abortionist can always claim that the woman's "health" (which, pursuant to case law, includes "mental health") may be jeopardized if she has a baby. A couple of hundred pro-abortion Congressmen voted for a sham substitute amendment to the PBA ban that putatively banned all late-term abortions but included that huge "health of the mother" loophole big wnough to drive a Mack truck through. Rudy's views are simular to those of the most extremist of those pro-abortion zealots, who did not support the PBA ban when the sham substitute amendment was voted down.


232 posted on 02/06/2007 12:51:45 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: hellbender

Romney has flip flopped on a number of issues. He is clearly pandering to the right and has no core beliefs. I would argue that 8 years as mayor of NYC was a tougher job than 4 years as Gov. of Mass. Romney spent the past year out of the state getting his support for 2008.


233 posted on 02/06/2007 12:51:51 PM PST by WillT
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To: RacerF150
This thread will prove how some "conservatives" want Republicans to lose every election possible.

It's a bit disingenuous for some on this forum to throw around the term "Republican In Name Only" when many of them aren't even "Republican In Name."

234 posted on 02/06/2007 12:51:59 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: hellbender

hillary is not immune, no more than kerry was to the swift boate veterans. It would require a bit more strong effort, though.


235 posted on 02/06/2007 12:53:13 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Peach

This is the thing about Rudy. The president's views on abortion and homosexuals are much less critical now that the Supreme Court is more balanced. I'm not saying the SCOTUS still can't get crazy, but these issues do belong there and Bush has managed to pull the Court back a little from the brink.

And there is no Republican on the horizon who has the leadership charisma that Rudy has in his little pinkie. Not to mention the willingness and ability to play street ball with the Rats.

I was never enamored of Rudy as a prez candidate, but as time goes on and the field continues to look stupid, I've reevaluated and found that, even though I strongly oppose Rudy's views on social issues, I can vote for him and work for him to get elected. I want someone in the White House with testicular fortitude on national security issues and Rudy's got that.


236 posted on 02/06/2007 12:54:56 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: L98Fiero

Thirded.


237 posted on 02/06/2007 12:55:11 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Redbob

"...conservative primary voters actually want hillary to be elected president if they don't vote for rudy."
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever seen on FreeRepublic.

It's either Hillary or Rudy, eh?
LOL!


See post #28.....


238 posted on 02/06/2007 12:57:17 PM PST by Ike (My idea of election reform - blue fingers in Philadelphia!)
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To: Kuksool

"IF the Dems are smart, they would support Bill Richardson as their guy."



If they were smart, they'd nominate TN Governor Phil Bredesen for President and Bill Richardson for VP. Fortunately, they are quite dumb in selecting their nominees. Reminds me a bit of Republicans when it comes to that . . . .


239 posted on 02/06/2007 12:57:38 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pistolshot

Rudy may not be near some people's core *moral* values, but he is fairly aligned with Republican core values, key being that Republicanism is a political philosophy, not a morality or theology.


240 posted on 02/06/2007 12:58:18 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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