Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou
He was just re-elected. Are you telling me he has been that bad since November?
What did he do, lie to get elected?
Actually, I believe that they would (and would be joined by some of their puritan soulmates on the left).
It's a simple opt-out, the schools cannot override it, and the idea that the school nurse is going to administer a shot secretly, against the wishes of the parent is absurd, and if true could happen with or without official policy.
He got 38% of the vote in a field of many.
Then, sir, please tell me how the point is irrelevant since boys were included in the study Merck conducted?
I'm guessing avoiding HPV itself would be considered a benefit to most women, whether or not they would have ended up with Cervical Cancer from it.
$6000 may be a lot of money to you, but it's NOTHING to a candidate for Governor.
If you think a politician can be bought for $6000, you shouldn't vote for them.
Thanks for your post, although I wasn't the one who came up with that question.
I don't agree with the arguement that the vaccine promotes earlier sex. What that arguement is really about is the parents' ability to oversee their kids' sexual issues rather than the state doing so.
Zachary is talking about a specific test for a specific desease. If I know(or think) I am protected from yellow fever I will certainly not go in and be checked for it, and a yearly checkup doesn't require a test for yellow fever, your anology is off a bit. A regular checkup for women won't necessarily include a pap smear. How many women do you know that actually have a "yearly" check up? I know of none, but I do know many who have a pap smear regularly.
Zachary is correct, this will stop some women from having a test that is both painful and embarassing for many. If they think they are protected many will forgo pap smears and you are the ludicrous one for thinking otherwise.
There are risks to all vaccinations. You do realize that.
We have a friend whose daughter died after a DPT shot.
Cervical cancer is fairly rare can be detected early and treated with routine pap smears, and there are no risks involved in doing routine pap smears. It seems like the best way to prevent/treat cervical cancer is through pap smears.
The risks for this vaccine are too high.
This thread isn't so long for it to have escaped your notice that this vaccine only covers 4 of 230 HPV viruses, of which 20 are thought to cause cancer.
No, it MAY be effective on 70% of cervical cancers caused by HPV, but even that number is misleading. Someone was telling me that it was effective 80% of the time. so 20% of that 70% will not be prevented at all, and women who get the shot will get cervical cancer anyways, in fact more likely because they will think they are immune and forgo regular pap testing. Just because you brush your teeth, do you stop going to the dentist? No. You brush your teeth as a preventitive step, but you can still get cavities. This vaccine does not prevent HPV. It does not warrant manditory vaccination at considerable cost. The only one it benefits is the drug maker, and shareholders, who get rich, and pass all liability off on the government.
Plus there are no side effects from a pap smear (or a mammogram).
"# HPV is a sexually transmitted disease."
While it is sexually transmissible, not all cases of anogenital warts are from sexual contact. Anogenital warts have appeared spontaneously in children who are not sexually active and who show no evidence of sexual abuse. Some cases are perinatal and others, where sexual abuse and contact have been certainly ruled out, are just "unknown".
No, but I bet those 4 aren't any nicer to have than the ones that it doesn't help with.
The same vaccine was used on males and females during the study.
Males don't get cervical cancer. What would you like the results to be?
It has been found to be 100% effective against cancers caused by HPV 16/18, which constitute 70% of cervical cancer cases. So no matter what someone was telling you, that someone doesn't know what's up. It is 99% effective against the two strains of genital warts it is intended to prevent.
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