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Backlash Grows Over Mandatory STD Shots
Express-News Austin Bureau ^ | 02/06/07 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: ConservaTexan

He was just re-elected. Are you telling me he has been that bad since November?
What did he do, lie to get elected?


61 posted on 02/06/2007 9:34:21 AM PST by JerseyDvl (STOP - Hildabeast, Shrillary, Hitlery, Billary, Her Thighness, Sen. Cankles.)
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To: Froufrou
"If the medical community developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would the same critics oppose it claiming it would encourage smoking?"

Actually, I believe that they would (and would be joined by some of their puritan soulmates on the left).

62 posted on 02/06/2007 9:34:53 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: VRWCmember

It's a simple opt-out, the schools cannot override it, and the idea that the school nurse is going to administer a shot secretly, against the wishes of the parent is absurd, and if true could happen with or without official policy.


63 posted on 02/06/2007 9:34:58 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JerseyDvl

He got 38% of the vote in a field of many.


64 posted on 02/06/2007 9:35:07 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Funny, but I don't remember pressing 1 for English in 1994.)
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To: kinoxi

Then, sir, please tell me how the point is irrelevant since boys were included in the study Merck conducted?


65 posted on 02/06/2007 9:35:30 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I'm guessing avoiding HPV itself would be considered a benefit to most women, whether or not they would have ended up with Cervical Cancer from it.


66 posted on 02/06/2007 9:35:48 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TracyTucson

$6000 may be a lot of money to you, but it's NOTHING to a candidate for Governor.

If you think a politician can be bought for $6000, you shouldn't vote for them.


67 posted on 02/06/2007 9:37:27 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: fr_freak
Deaths from cervical cancer (about 3,700 a year) are but one of the issues.

Cervical cancer is also, of course, one of, if the primary, the reasons for hysterectomies.

HPV also has implications in infertility --- unclear what, exactly, but in studies of people undergoing IVF, a woman who tested positive for HPV was 50% less likely to ultimately have a baby --- speculation is that the virus damages the lining of the uterus, making the placenta more likely to detach and/or not implant in the first place.
68 posted on 02/06/2007 9:37:33 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: steve-b; kinoxi

Thanks for your post, although I wasn't the one who came up with that question.

I don't agree with the arguement that the vaccine promotes earlier sex. What that arguement is really about is the parents' ability to oversee their kids' sexual issues rather than the state doing so.


69 posted on 02/06/2007 9:38:15 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
If females can be inoculated against the disease then protect them. The male vaccination is inherently more complicated due to the fact that this is a 'cervical cancer' vaccine.
70 posted on 02/06/2007 9:39:13 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Sols; Nathan Zachary
Ludicrous. You have probably gotten at least 6 different vaccines in your life, more if you are much of an international traveler. Have you ever thought to yourself, "Well I got that yellow fever shot last year when I went to South Africa, surely I can skip my yearly check-up with my family doctor."

Zachary is talking about a specific test for a specific desease. If I know(or think) I am protected from yellow fever I will certainly not go in and be checked for it, and a yearly checkup doesn't require a test for yellow fever, your anology is off a bit. A regular checkup for women won't necessarily include a pap smear. How many women do you know that actually have a "yearly" check up? I know of none, but I do know many who have a pap smear regularly.

Zachary is correct, this will stop some women from having a test that is both painful and embarassing for many. If they think they are protected many will forgo pap smears and you are the ludicrous one for thinking otherwise.

71 posted on 02/06/2007 9:39:14 AM PST by calex59
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To: chaos_5

There are risks to all vaccinations. You do realize that.

We have a friend whose daughter died after a DPT shot.

Cervical cancer is fairly rare can be detected early and treated with routine pap smears, and there are no risks involved in doing routine pap smears. It seems like the best way to prevent/treat cervical cancer is through pap smears.

The risks for this vaccine are too high.


72 posted on 02/06/2007 9:39:37 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Nathan Zachary

This thread isn't so long for it to have escaped your notice that this vaccine only covers 4 of 230 HPV viruses, of which 20 are thought to cause cancer.


73 posted on 02/06/2007 9:40:05 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: CholeraJoe
"It is about 70% effective, roughly the same as flu shots.

No, it MAY be effective on 70% of cervical cancers caused by HPV, but even that number is misleading. Someone was telling me that it was effective 80% of the time. so 20% of that 70% will not be prevented at all, and women who get the shot will get cervical cancer anyways, in fact more likely because they will think they are immune and forgo regular pap testing. Just because you brush your teeth, do you stop going to the dentist? No. You brush your teeth as a preventitive step, but you can still get cavities. This vaccine does not prevent HPV. It does not warrant manditory vaccination at considerable cost. The only one it benefits is the drug maker, and shareholders, who get rich, and pass all liability off on the government.

74 posted on 02/06/2007 9:40:13 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Plus there are no side effects from a pap smear (or a mammogram).


75 posted on 02/06/2007 9:40:52 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: DumpsterDiver

"# HPV is a sexually transmitted disease."

While it is sexually transmissible, not all cases of anogenital warts are from sexual contact. Anogenital warts have appeared spontaneously in children who are not sexually active and who show no evidence of sexual abuse. Some cases are perinatal and others, where sexual abuse and contact have been certainly ruled out, are just "unknown".


76 posted on 02/06/2007 9:41:06 AM PST by Sols
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To: Froufrou

No, but I bet those 4 aren't any nicer to have than the ones that it doesn't help with.


77 posted on 02/06/2007 9:41:25 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: kinoxi

The same vaccine was used on males and females during the study.


78 posted on 02/06/2007 9:41:36 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Males don't get cervical cancer. What would you like the results to be?


79 posted on 02/06/2007 9:43:03 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Nathan Zachary

It has been found to be 100% effective against cancers caused by HPV 16/18, which constitute 70% of cervical cancer cases. So no matter what someone was telling you, that someone doesn't know what's up. It is 99% effective against the two strains of genital warts it is intended to prevent.


80 posted on 02/06/2007 9:44:22 AM PST by Sols
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