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Backlash Grows Over Mandatory STD Shots
Express-News Austin Bureau ^ | 02/06/07 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: HonestConservative
How many folks died or became disabled in the study?

From the link that I posted:

According to the Merck product manufacturer insert, there was 1 case of juvenile arthritis, 2 cases of rheumatoid arthritis, 5 cases of arthritis, and 1 case of reactive arthritis out of 11,813 Gardasil recipients plus 1 case of lupus and 2 cases of arthritis out of 9,701 participants primarily receiving an aluminum containing placebo. Clinical trial investigators dismissed most of the 102 Gardasil and placebo associated serious adverse events, including 17 deaths, that occurred in the clinical trials as unrelated.

361 posted on 02/07/2007 12:42:50 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That's pretty alarming, if you ask me. 90% Gardasil and 85% placebo side effects due to aluminum? I wonder if these muscle pain and weaknesses are the ones other drugs caution to report right away as a 'rare but serious condition?'

I'm for taking as little medication as possible. Even my hormones are bio-identical.


362 posted on 02/07/2007 12:44:00 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

Flu viruses have been very difficult to combine.

Manufacturing vaccines is a very, very difficult and exasperating process. Combination vaccines although apparently a great idea, are also highly unpredictable to develop at times and criticized by the ani-vaccine crowd.

So many lots of vaccine are made so very by the book and yet for unknown reasons must be tossed d/t loss of potency. It is a thousand times harder than drug manufacturing. The investment in R & D and manufacture is so specialized and expensive and LONG and people don't like to pay for prevention.

There are mavericks in this business as well as any other, but the good guys drive them out quickly. Then they move on to something more lucrative, like journalism or politics. j/k


363 posted on 02/07/2007 12:44:04 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: Froufrou

I'll be really shocked if the people of Texas put up with this travesty.


364 posted on 02/07/2007 12:44:49 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: najida
So?

You won't know unless you actually read it.

365 posted on 02/07/2007 12:44:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
17 deaths??? From a drug that prevents a cancer that's already seen a 74% reduction since the Pap??? MANDATED?
366 posted on 02/07/2007 12:45:50 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I'm thinking,
The hepatitis vacs have been out for a long time,
And it's a virus.

Polio, smallpox, diphtheria etc are all caused by viruses.


367 posted on 02/07/2007 12:45:54 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Wonder how that compares to numbers in the general population with children who see physicians regularly and have never been vaccinated.

Just wondering.


368 posted on 02/07/2007 12:46:09 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I read it.

Not impressed.

Try again.


369 posted on 02/07/2007 12:46:29 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: najida
Sodom and Gomorrah is not well understood by people like you.

It was about overbearing people forcing themselves on others without regard to consequences.
370 posted on 02/07/2007 12:46:34 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Froufrou

I'm a strong believer in better living through chemistry. Maybe it's because I played in the church cemetary while Mom practiced the organ.

But it made a huge impression on me. Huge.


371 posted on 02/07/2007 12:47:52 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: HonestConservative

"Flu viruses have been very difficult to combine."

Morphing a little more than some others, I imagine.

Remember, too, that a huge bunch of Exxon employees in Houston got placebo instead of flu shots. And the servers knew it! Injected with water anyway!

Small wonder we don't trust very well.


372 posted on 02/07/2007 12:49:15 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
90% Gardasil and 85% placebo side effects due to aluminum?

Especially considering they never use it in trials, they use saline. AND gave them Hepatitis B at the same time. This was not a clean clinical test.

373 posted on 02/07/2007 12:49:39 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: perseid 67

Oh please,
Turn off the pipe organ!

I don't want government buttiskies either. However, I'm all for vaccinations. I've had a glimpse into a world without them, and I think they're a good thing.


374 posted on 02/07/2007 12:49:57 PM PST by najida (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: Froufrou
17 deaths??? From a drug that prevents a cancer that's already seen a 74% reduction since the Pap??? MANDATED?

It gets better.(or worse)

Merck-Gardasil

About HPV Disease

In the United States, approximately 20 million people are infected with HPV, and approximately 80 percent of females will have acquired HPV by age 50. For most people, HPV goes away on its own

375 posted on 02/07/2007 12:53:29 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: HonestConservative

The study seems to be rather short on info. I'd certainly like more. And definately don't like the little that's out there.


376 posted on 02/07/2007 12:55:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: najida
Try again.

Nope.

377 posted on 02/07/2007 12:55:59 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: najida

Better research that. Google 'immunization for bacterial disease' and you'll see. Bacteria are much larger than viruses.


378 posted on 02/07/2007 12:59:27 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I believe the sexual activity had to be limited to 0 or 1 or 2 partners.

Also, part of proving that preventing infection by the vaccine is effective is that they were exposed during the time of the study. (sex)

No one would want a study in 11 year olds that expected them to have sex, and thus exposure, with in the next year or two.

Yes, those ages included in the study are also within the label requirements for vaccination, but to try to be ahead of a child's first sexual experience, vaccination is prefered before likely sexual activity.


379 posted on 02/07/2007 1:00:32 PM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thank you. I've been to the site many times but didn't get the 'dirt' on the trial, other than the test subjects not being the same age as target subjects.

Have you checked out their HIV trial?


380 posted on 02/07/2007 1:00:56 PM PST by Froufrou
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