Still Waiting

Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

[T'wit]

Fwiw, I think the pro-life arguments against this decision are technically correct; at least they seem so. Legally, then, it was a tiny victory at potentially a fearsome price. However, I think the critics should heed the psychology of it all. The Sacred Media have announced that SCOTUS has ruled against PBA. It is that announcement which will save some lives. Here is why:

"Patients" will be less likely to seek this "procedure" after hearing this media trumpeting. "Abortionists" will feel more risk when they perform PBAs, even if they can look at the small print and say, "We can still do it, this way." The law is too capricious for that. They definitely run a greater chance of malpractice verdicts going against them.

[bjs1779]

Thanks for trying, 8mm. The Abstract Appeal blog site is allowed however. Citing the statutes and linking the State of Florida website is not kosher either. Smell something?

[floriduh voter]

missed Brownback. shucks.

[floriduh voter]

if you are talking about a-——— appeal, at least one of them has a screen name.

[floriduh voter]

1663 Miss Gulch was on Mikey's legal team. (remember two cats were also killed)

"And her little dog too...."

[floriduh voter]

Murder is for lovers? Man, the euthanazi’s are really putting a romantic spin on their enterprises.

[T'wit]

>> if you are talking about a-——— appeal, at least one of them has a screen name.

Not that. I wasn't sure what Mauser had in mind, so was inquiring. He sent a Freepmail to clear it up.

[T'wit]

:-) I can just gaze at the house coming down and flattening her -- CRASHT*H*U*M*P -- and think such very sad, sorrowful thoughts.

[T'wit]

>> Murder is for lovers?

I've never quite understood playwrights.

[8mmMauser]

A mixed bag, about Terri and other cases and comas...

This author may be on to something, unfortunately leans on faulty information in forming his conclusions.

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Two years after the death of Terri Schiavo, the Florida woman who languished in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years until her feeding tube was removed, the debate continues over how to diagnose severe brain damage.

Several scientific papers published in March and April in Neurology, Clinical Neurophysiology, and the Spanish Journal of Neurology relay exciting advances in assessing the severity of brain damage, the degree of awareness, and the chances of recovery.

Diagnosis, more so than actual treatment, could mean the difference between life and death, because a grim diagnosis can preclude therapeutic efforts and prompt doctors and families to remove the patient from life support.

The tragedy is that diagnosis techniques are flawed and doctors can be wrong.

~Snip~

Miracle recoveries

Medical archives abound with stories of patients awaking after years. Terry Wallis is one famous example; after 19 years in a vegetative state, Wallis began talking in 2003, albeit with difficulty. The hope was that Terri Schiavo would someday wake up, too.

The difference, though, is that Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state, while those patients who recover partially were in a minimally conscious state and had some degree of awareness of their surroundings.

Sounds clear cut, but a study from London in the 1990s found that about a third of patient thought to be in a persistent vegetative state did show signs of awareness when closely examined.

~Snip~

Right-to-life advocates see such advances as reason to keep all brain-damaged patients on life-support systems. But neurologists stress, by virtue of these advanced tests, that some patients are most certainly in permanent vegetative states and will never recover. Terry Schiavo's diagnosis was nearly unanimous among doctors, and her autopsy also revealed unrecoverable brain damage.

Mistakes can be made, which is why the President and Congress rushed to keep the courts from allowing Schiavo's feeding tube to be removed. But for those who care about the sanctity of life, it might be useful to remember that mistakes are more likely made in life-or-death situations such as capital punishment or the call for war.

New Techniques Probe Consciousness During a Coma

8mm

[8mmMauser]

A Wisconsin Badgers editor pans the recent "debate."

The debate reached an apex of irrelevance when Mr. Williams asked the field of candidates what mistakes they’ve made. This should be one of the most humbling and important questions given to politicians who are trying to assert their responsibility and legitimacy. Instead, they’re given 20 seconds to respond and treat it like an episode of the dating game. Oh, Mr. Obama knows he made mistakes, but his wife has a longer list. So he just mentions Terri Schiavo for good measure. Bravo. Ms. Clinton says she made a mistake with health care, but she made a bigger mistake believing the president on Iraq. Mr. Edwards’ mistake was the same, as were Mr. Biden’s and Mr. Dodd’s.

More stale rhetoric in Dems ‘debate’

8mm

[8mmMauser]

New York, what is happening? Thread by wagglebee.

NEW YORK, May 1, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - NY Governor Eliot Spitzer has introduced legislation that would establish legal recognition for homosexual unions in the state, and has pledged to bring forward a bill that would strengthen the state’s abortion laws, in anticipation of potential legal challenges following the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the ban on partial birth abortion procedures.

Gov. Spitzer introduced a measure on April 27 that would eliminate gender from the legal definition of marriage and make denying a marriage license to homosexual couples illegal. Mr. Spitzer ran his election campaign on a platform that included legalizing same-sex marriage in the state.

NY Governor Spitzer Pushes Abortion and Gay Marriage

8mm

[8mmMauser]

Re: post above, thanks for the ping.

[T'wit]

I'll come back and read this one in detail. It is important to the Terri story but also to life at large. One of our close friends collapsed into a comatose state a few days ago... came out of it briefly... then started coughing up blood. The ICU has her in an artificial coma now, attempting to stabilize her after a lot of bodily damage. Nobody knows if she'll make it.

Maybe in the future, all comas will be seen as "artificial." Maybe we'll have a key to restore wakefulness.

[T'wit]

Fairly bright young man. He writes with a bit of flair. I am sorry to see he’s in journalism school, which will wreck his native good sense and fair-mindedness.

[T'wit]

New York state is enough of a zoo without Gov. Spitzer unlocking all the cages.

[8mmMauser]

Spitzer is also a pointed bullet that helped the Mauser to evolve into a long range accurate weapon. No relation, I am sure.

[T'wit]

“Spitz” is German for sharp or pointy. The bullet name is probably descriptive.

[8mmMauser]

But does it describe the guv??

[T'wit]

In the sense of his engaging in sharp practices, of course it describes him.

Mentally sharp? He's too mean for that.