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Nagin: Class and race issues killing New Orleans' recovery
cnn.com ^ | 3:28 p.m. EST, January 29, 2007

Posted on 01/29/2007 1:33:05 PM PST by nctexan

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To: lafroste
By that logic let's move everyone out of So. Cal. because it's going to shelf off one day, not that relocating liberals to the Arctic is a bad idea. I mean cmon' use a better argument than that like, "The city is run by inept boobs who do not care it is under sea level, so why should we?."
41 posted on 01/29/2007 2:10:34 PM PST by LazarusMan
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To: nctexan

Typical, to cover up his own ineptness he has to play the race/class card.

I am real tired of the whining.


42 posted on 01/29/2007 2:11:01 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: nctexan

"I think it's more class than anything, but there's racial issues associated with it also," Nagin said."

Uh huh. Soooooooooo, the fact that Mississippi IS rebuilding though it shares many of the same socio-economic issues means what, Mr. C. City Mayor?


43 posted on 01/29/2007 2:13:04 PM PST by Rightfootforward
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To: george76

That's a tag team there!


44 posted on 01/29/2007 2:14:42 PM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: edcoil

The price of chocolate is awfully high these days.


45 posted on 01/29/2007 2:15:08 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: nctexan

Everyone line up and take your turn getting a knife between the ribs. Who wants to carpool down?


46 posted on 01/29/2007 2:16:17 PM PST by relictele
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To: nctexan
I couldnt agree more with your statement about Ray "Wonka" Nagin. Mr Nagin has seen fit to fix up the Central Business District of New Orleans, throwing a whopping $100 million dollars at an area that was hardly damaged and had the biggest payouts from insurance companies. Let's not forget the other $57 million dollars to the Stupid Dome Renaissance.
Almost 100 thousand homeowners lost their homes. A vast majority are in areas where they will not be able to rebuild because the insurance companies will not touch them. Jeez, real hard to figure this one out, buy them out and sell the land to corporations and create an industrial park. WOW, what a difficult concept. Hmm then maybe you can use some of the other money to rebuild the levees or create a system like the Dutch use. Hell they are much further below sea level and do not seem to have a problem.
The Ghetto Dwelling community in New Orleans is much of the problem because the have been bred on welfare, to expect hand outs, and voting skin color rather than qualifications. They have given a bad name to working class Blacks, Whites, Hispanics in New Orleans who are honestly trying to rebuild the city. Unfortunately the latter are fighting a corrupt government, hand out mongers, and MSM, that only seems to be showing the plights of the hand out mongers. They make me ashamed to say I am a New Orleanian and DAMN GLAD I DONT LIVE THERE, ANYMORE!!!
47 posted on 01/29/2007 2:22:59 PM PST by LazarusMan
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To: nctexan
Ray Nagin:

"Send More Chocolate! "

48 posted on 01/29/2007 2:24:02 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: nctexan

I will say this as a local, still living in the N.O. area until I can get certain family members to agree to vamoose for good: A combination of factors is killing the 'recovery'.

First- there IS NO unified will to fix N.O. from the State. The rest of Louisiana has always hated N.O., and( if they're honest and not PC) the state lawmakers and citizens will say that.
Second- We have advertised the city as a place to " Party, Parade and Puke" for so long, that is its only value in the minds of the rest of the US taxpayers. Paradoxically, the fact that the Vieux Carre and other tourist destinations escaped real damage from The Thing only hurts. Now it has been proven that tourists can come and do their usual thing WITHOUT having to rebuild anything that isn't already functioning.
Third- Reality. The 'Big Reason'. New Orleans is now marshland. It cannot be protected from the Gulf of Mexico. It is sinking. More hurricanes WILL strike, destroying whatever pitiful levee work is being attempted, and the whole area continues to sink. Infrastructure was ancient, barely functioning, and is now destroyed.
The ENTIRE CITY would have to be razed, an entirely new network of drainage installed, fill added to a ludicrous depth before anything is rebuilt, and levees 4 stories tall built on reinforced land.

Nagin is right in a way he doesn't want to go into. Class IS a factor. The middle class evacuated and isn't returning. The upper class plain doesn't give a damn as long as their mansions are above water and they have the money to escape.
The lower class cannot support themselves, much less rebuild a city, and the criminal lower class is running rampant. Thugs have bred thugs and its Bartertown.
Race- yep. Truth is, that criminal lower class is almost exclusively black. And since they are the power base Nagin is trying to pacify in order to vault himself into national prominence as a 'defender of black people', he certainly isn't going to alienate them. He's not kissing up to Jackson and Sharpton because he wants to stay in local politics.
He wants a black city- but a poor, easily duped, black city. If he comes down hard on the blacks that are left ( mostly the poor and the criminal) then he'll have a white city. The WORST thing he can imagine!
And ALL of this is in the national consciousness, and is responsible for the disdain the rest of the country feels for an American city.
The entire N.O. area south of Lake Pontchatrain should be Federalized, all property bought by the government, and the 'land' given up to the swamp that has reclaimed it.
The ORIGINAL city- the Vieux Carre and the Sliver by the River- can remain , along with the Port of New Orleans, as a self-sustaining island until nature overwhelms it too.


49 posted on 01/29/2007 2:28:34 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Continental Soldier

"A city that is 3/4 below sea level should not be rebuilt."

Nope. Open the floodgates, let the entire city go underwater then change the city into an underwater theme park, hotel & conference center.


50 posted on 01/29/2007 2:28:37 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: K4Harty

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51 posted on 01/29/2007 2:30:21 PM PST by sono (There are only two exit strategies - One is victory, the other defeat - Joe Lieberman)
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To: LazarusMan

The S.Cal argument doesn't hold water here( pardon the irony).
If S. Cal DID go off the continental shelf in the Big One, would rebuilding it be sane?
N.O. HAS been 85% destroyed, and the factors that did it still exist and cannot be changed. Geography and weather.


52 posted on 01/29/2007 2:33:49 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: blam
"State officials have said city leaders failed to provide required documentation..."

****

Isn't this the problem?

It certainly is, and Nagin is trying to cast off the blame for his inadequate leadership.

53 posted on 01/29/2007 2:34:47 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: nctexan

Nagin isn't liking all the white chocolate he's seeing.


54 posted on 01/29/2007 2:35:06 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (A Muslim soldier can never be loyal to a non-Muslim commander.)
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To: george76

Well, at least they can't cpmplain that they were slighted on their party name.

-PJ

55 posted on 01/29/2007 2:35:14 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: sono

that is beautiful. I'm ROTFL!


56 posted on 01/29/2007 2:40:04 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If voting really changed things, it would be illegal.)
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To: nctexan

And what issues are at stake keeping HOUSTON from recovering from Katrina? We still have 100,000 refuges, many of whom haven't gotten jobs or taken up paying rent for themselves.

And a rising crime rate, that while is not solely the result of NOLA transplants is seeing a contributing factor.


57 posted on 01/29/2007 2:40:05 PM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

And much of the problems that led to the levee breaking in NOLA was from corrupt politicians (state and local) who didn't do the tasks they were required to do. Instead they pocketed money.


58 posted on 01/29/2007 2:41:09 PM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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To: nctexan
"I strongly urge you to return responsibility and accountability to the local government

Isn't that the problem? They do not have the ability to produce the required documentation, much less be accountable to the taxpayers for hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars. If his people can't get it done, let him fire their arses and get some people who can. Oh yeah, they're civil service. They're Brahmins.

59 posted on 01/29/2007 2:41:57 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Political Junkie Too

According to the Wikipedia entry, Jefferson's party was called the Democratic-Republicans.


60 posted on 01/29/2007 2:42:16 PM PST by weegee (No third term. Hillary Clinton's 2008 election run presents a Constitutional Crisis.)
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