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Giuliani Is Cautious (indecisive?) as He Weighs ’08 Decision
NY Times ^ | SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 01/27/2007 2:26:06 PM PST by narses

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To: Blackirish
I would not equate equating a massive-scale holocaust with having an extra buck in my wallet with sophistication. Specifically what I mean by this is presenting a more forceful philosophical argument, which I believe we have. To give one very brief example, why is the pro-abort not frequently challenged to define the magical "poof!" moment one nanosecond before which the entity is a "blob of cells" and one nanosecond after which the entity is magically transformed into a "person?"

Like it or not, it is the set of moral axioms that permeated Coloninal society which provided the seedbed into which our Republic has sown. I do not believe, by any stretch, that we in the 21st century have the moral fiber to produce such a republic. The best we can do is try to hold on, try to stave off the relentless descent into socialistic nihilism - the early symptoms of which can be seen just by turning on your television.

421 posted on 01/27/2007 8:48:10 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Maybe it's not about you!

How do you feel you are doing so far in preventing abortion?

Rudy is for securing the borders, too.

How can Rudy invalidate the second amendment?

422 posted on 01/27/2007 8:49:26 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Well, then you should know that Rudy would be competitive here, especially against Hillary.


423 posted on 01/27/2007 8:49:57 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Sunsong
We've made some progress on the SCOTUS - with a net gain of 1 on the conservative side. We need to make more progress. We need more time.

That said, it is not my belief there "not much I can do" which is why we are involved with pregnancy centers, and why we gave $300 to the South Dakota effort - and will do so as able for similar efforts in the future.

424 posted on 01/27/2007 8:50:22 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
The best we can do is try to hold on, try to stave off the relentless descent into socialistic nihilism - the early symptoms of which can be seen just by turning on your television.

How do you feel you are doing so far?

425 posted on 01/27/2007 8:51:10 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
How can Rudy invalidate the second amendment?

Ever hear of executive order? Clinton stoped importation or mil-surp with the stroke of a pen. That included optics as well.

426 posted on 01/27/2007 8:52:05 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: My GOP
I'm pragmatic and

Pragmatic = ends justify the means...


You're also rude, vile, and hateful and I will pray for you tonight.

"If they do not listento Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead." (Luke 16:31)

Better pray for yourself instead, or for your fellowship with "sin" you are so enamoured with.

I do not follow the wisdom of men.

427 posted on 01/27/2007 8:53:21 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Lexinom
You lost in South Dakota!

How does electing a democrat give you more time or help you to make progress on the Supreme Court?

428 posted on 01/27/2007 8:53:30 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: beltfed308
FGS. I don't believe that for a second. Paranoia is the problem of the paranoid.

What ever will you do if Rudy is elected? :-)

429 posted on 01/27/2007 8:55:15 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

You are delusional. It is well known what Clinton did under executive orders. Take your time and look it up before looking like a fool.


430 posted on 01/27/2007 8:57:03 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Dolphy

The Detroit metro area will vote blindly for any Democrat.

You should know this.

Look at the scum you have for the senate and for governor. Even Ted Nugent left.

(P.S. I wiped a booger on John Dingell's chair in D.C. when I was a little boy.)


431 posted on 01/27/2007 8:57:37 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sunsong
" Rudy is for securing the borders, too. "

LOL, he went to court several times to keep his illegal aliens safe in New York City.
432 posted on 01/27/2007 8:57:47 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You don't follow wisdom at all. If you did you would know we couldn't stop abortions no matter how many pro-life President we elect and that the federal government can't stop gays from being gay. Those are the facts. I should know, I just graduated from Wake Forest University with a degree in Political Science. I know how these things work.


433 posted on 01/27/2007 8:57:47 PM PST by My GOP (Conservatives should be realistic and pragmatic!!)
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To: Sunsong
Like most of us, we struggle to maintain order and godliness in our household and use what little we have to help others.

If you look at my FR page you will see I live in an extremely left wing state. My sentators are worthless, and my local rep at the state level agrees with me but has very little power.

What are your thoughts? Do you even believe there is a problem? If so, do you have something to offer in the way of answers to the questions you've asked?

434 posted on 01/27/2007 8:58:16 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Sunsong
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june98/guns_4-6.html

Ignorant fool.

435 posted on 01/27/2007 8:59:29 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: beltfed308

I repeat - you are paranoid if you believe that of Rudy. Take some deep breaths. It's going to be a long time until next year. Listen to Rudy - learn about him for what he says.


436 posted on 01/27/2007 9:00:03 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: My GOP
I just graduated from Wake Forest University with a degree in Political Science.

You were brainwashed.

I graduated as a chief warrant officer and from the school of hard knocks...

437 posted on 01/27/2007 9:01:18 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
LOL yourself. Do some research. See what Rudy has to say.

So you are here to bash because...

Whose mind do you think you are changing? :-)

438 posted on 01/27/2007 9:01:43 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
South Dakota was a beginning, not an end. We won 44% of the vote. We were outspent nearly 4:1. We have zero support at the national level, from NRLC. Our law ("Referred Law 6") contain only an extremely limited exception for rape/incest: the Plan B drug.

Viewed in the light of these realities, South Dakota was an encouragment.

439 posted on 01/27/2007 9:02:57 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Do you really think there will come a day when all abortions will be outlawed? How can the government stop gays from being gay? You were knocked over the head one too many times.


440 posted on 01/27/2007 9:03:05 PM PST by My GOP (Its a fool who says in his heart there is no God.)
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