Posted on 01/27/2007 1:36:11 PM PST by tpaine
"...let's say the lady of the house noticed a shotgun in my trucks rack and told me to not bring a gun on her property from then on.""I suspect I would smile, say yes mam, make a mental note that this woman was weird, -- and continue to carry my shotgun..." -- tpaine
I don't understand why you refer to me as a gun-grabber and absolutist. We both (at least at one time you did) approve of the GA gun bill and the one time where you indicated agreement or disagreement with my posts you agreed with me.
Yes. Some businesses with private parking lots and a requirement to keep uncontrolled weapons out of their perimeter have actually set up off-site parking lots.
You will take any manner of behavior to duck the question.
Do you approve of the GA bill?
Now don't give me any malarky since you will write paragraphs around the issue but will not answer yes or no.
Why?
That wouldn't account for an increase in the school budget. Added expenses, such as power, fuel, etc. might or an influx of kids that required more facilities or teachers.
I dunno. Seems like you and tpaine have something between the two of you. Somehow, even though we both agree (I think) on the GA bill and we both agree on the nutcase of this thread, he has labeled me with you as a gun-grabber and absolutist. I really don't want to get caught up between the two of you but I really wonder about tpaine.
He will write paragraphs often misleading about me but will not answer ONE simple question on whether or not he approves of the GA bill. He could solve all the wondering by a simple statement.
--That wouldn't account for an increase in the school budget. --
It would account for part of it. I am sure that in the last 20 years they have had to build new school buildings.
That's true.
What is interesting is that schools are now becoming too expensive for many communities. Education is expensive and some places can no longer afford to provide it.
Thanks for reposting this luis:
Here's a little thought exercise for all you property fundamentalists on the right to carry issue. [expanded]
I'm a general building contractor, and I used to occasionally work for ranch or estate owners -- people who routinely 'post' their property with signs saying "-- No Guns, No Hunting --".
Most post because they want to sell hunting rights, not to ban hunting or guns.
During the bidding process, I would routinely arrive at their property in my pickup, w/gun rack in the the rear window, and normally I would mention that I was always looking for property to hunt on.
-- Thus they were well aware that I carried arms in my work vehicles, -- often..
-- But as they had ~invited~ me to their property to bid on work, the subject of hunting or guns would not be discussed in detail.
--- Now after a routine construction contract had been signed, and I commenced work at their home property, let's say the lady of the house noticed a shotgun in my trucks rack and told me to not bring a gun on her property from then on.
I suspect I would smile, say yes mam, make a mental note that this woman was weird about guns, and I might explain that I was hunting elsewhere after work that day..
On subsequent days ~if I so chose~, I could continue to carry my shotgun, ~[inside behind the seat, or in a toolbox, so as to not 'alarm' the irrational housewife] -- without violating any known laws, --- as my construction contract gave me permission to be on the homeowners property w/tools, -- to do the job as per plans & specifications. --
--- Nothing in that contract, or in common or constitutional law, gives that homeowner the right to infringe on my right to carry that shotgun in my truck, just like the rest of my tools. ---
I'm well aware that by taking that gun ~out of the truck- or out of my toolbox, -- I'd be on shaky constitutional & legal ground as a home property owner can be as weird about guns as she chooses.
- But in any case, - carrying that shotgun did not affect the homeowners property rights in ANY way..
Get the principle yet fellas?
Obviously, you cannot or will not..
Why? -- Why is our right to carry such a threat to you that you would deny invited guest workers on your property a gun in their vehicles?
A gun is just another tool, like hammers, knives, etc. -- All are also weapons.
Either you trust your employees with weapons, or you do it yourself.
And in my experience, those afraid of weapons cannot do for themselves. Its sort of a catch 22 situation. These weird people are afraid of other [armed] people, yet they need them.
-- What to do? -- In their panic they attempt to ban arms, - guns, knives, hammers..
-- Then we all lose, as Koestler put it so eloquently..
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From tpaines post requesting comments. Unfortunately, tpaine will not state that he supports it. Why? Does tpaine NOT support the bill that he describes as "would let workers have guns in cars"? Does tpaine have a hidded agenda? I have no idea. tpaine called me a gun-grabber and absolutist after I affirmed my support for the bill. Something is very strange with tpaine. I wish I knew what it was? Any guys been around hear longer that can give me some background on what is going on?
I see that you were trying to trap luis by leaving out details pertinent to your argument. Is that why you won't answer my simple question?
Do you approve of the GA gun bill?
Re-read my answer to you at #920.
If you can't understand it, get help.
--I'm well aware that by taking that gun ~out of the truck- or out of my toolbox, -- I'd be on shaky constitutional & legal ground as a home property owner can be as weird about guns as she chooses.--
If she was like "granny" on the BHB, you might get a load of buckshot!
I have to infer from that (since you directed me to do so and won't give a straight answer) that you do not approve of the GA gun bill which, in your words, let's a person carry a gun in their car.
And you call me a gun-grabber, gun-grabber.
Question. Are you working to defeat that GA bill that would allow people to carry their guns in their car when they go to the mall, to the grocery store, to the gas station? I don't understand why you are against this bill?
Looking back, I am now more confused than ever. Here is what you posted. A repost of my words and your reponse. It APPEARS that here you support the GA bill but now you say you don't agree with a bill that agrees with the right to carry a gun in your car. What gives?
"Our Constitution explicitly restricts the power of our federal government; and our Bill of Rights guarantees that NO government may infringe upon our God given unalienable rights."
Our constitution also defines rebellion as a crime.
My 'exercise' was first posted to Luis over a month ago.
Since then luis has been posting 'out of context' excerpts, "trying to trap" me by leaving out details pertinent to my entire argument.
Try to keep up.
--Try to keep up.--
I don't remember you or luis before this weekend. No way to "keep up" with what y'all have had going for the past month. On the other hand, you do seem to have a habit of baiting people. Pretending to be for the GA gun bill and against this nut and then calling me a gun-grabber and absolutist when I declared my support for the bill. I do wonder about your motives.
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