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He said, 'If you come on my land, I'll kill you'
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Posted on 01/27/2007 1:36:11 PM PST by tpaine

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To: UpAllNight

Well, I'm not advocating that and I never said that. You're jumping to conclusions. I did state that I agree that I can understand how this crap happens. People get fed up. Just like I - and others - are getting fed up with you!


841 posted on 01/29/2007 11:03:27 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: from occupied ga

--So in your opinion armed rebellion is never justified, or just not justified here and now?--

The Constitution considers rebellion a crime. This forum does not support any type of rebellion.


842 posted on 01/29/2007 11:06:38 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: Luis Gonzalez; y'all; higgmeister
Exactly. An honorable man would-[could] have fired warning shots, ran them off his land, and then tried to justify his action.

And when they returned?

When they returned he would have had a bully pulpit [just as Koresh had at Waco] to justify his action.

Remember every action at any level of government on a citizen is potentially lethal force. If an individual resists, the response will escalate to the point where he must be taken away in chains or someone is harmed by his effort of resistance.

Yep, Koresh had his options, -- so did Watson. They both chose death.

Our existence carries a social contract that should be secured by the Rule of Law; whereas nowadays we progressively appear to be be enslaved by Mob Rule and survival of the fittest.

Well put. Our constitutional social contract should indeed be secured by the rule of law.
Watson insisted that ~his~ rules over his property trumped our rule of law.
Luis Gonzalez insists that ~his~ rules over his property trumps our rule of law about carrying arms in vehicles.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify my position.

843 posted on 01/29/2007 11:08:23 AM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: 7thson

--Well, I'm not advocating that and I never said that. You're jumping to conclusions--

I jumped to no conclusions. I merely asked you if he called the cops before shooting. That is not "jumping" on you. You responded that it was over 20 years ago and he probably did. I responded that since you had no memory of what happened, your example was worthless.


844 posted on 01/29/2007 11:10:46 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: UpAllNight

Obsessions are weird. Seek help.


845 posted on 01/29/2007 11:12:18 AM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: tpaine

Looks like the public is really mad about the government intruding on private property.
Listen. Private property irritates marxists (dems, libs, progressives, media). They want to take it away and they are very successful: property taxes, eminent domain, "easement". Laws about what you can and "can not" do on your private property.
This is creeping marxism. Little by little our rights are taken away by marxists who hope that we don't notice.
The worst offender is property tax which takes your house a little at a time. If your tax is at 10%, the government has seized your whole house in 10 years.
Since the government left you with the snow and the grass and the hedges and the new roofs it hopes that we don't notice that it is gradually taking our house.


846 posted on 01/29/2007 11:13:01 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (creeping marxism - another name for liberalism)
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To: tpaine

--Obsessions are weird. Seek help.--

I know, you keep asking me the same question over and over and I keep answering it for you again and again but you won't answer my question.

Do you still approve of the GA bill after this discussion we have had?


847 posted on 01/29/2007 11:14:02 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: tpaine

The attitudes displayed on this thread will decide elections for a long time to come.


848 posted on 01/29/2007 11:14:29 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: atlaw
I saw some Huck Finn style TV movie in the 1990's where a fairly well-to-do plantation family was sitting down to dinner when they discovered that one of the daughters had taken up with a guy from an "enemy" family.

All the men including dad and all the brothers, down to an 8 year old boy, took off and saddled up to rectify the situation. This left mom and a few daughters sitting at the table. Fast forward a half hour with them riding into the woods - and an ambush. Every one of them is killed, including the boy as he runs down a stream and is shot in the back.

The camera then returns to the women sitting at the table, followed by break to commercial.

This is what true vigilantism/anarchy gets you.
849 posted on 01/29/2007 11:15:15 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: UpAllNight
This forum does not support any type of rebellion.

So you think that this forum supports Castro? Chavez?

The Constitution considers rebellion a crime

All governments think rebellion is a crime, yet people are driven to it from time to time by what they feel to be intolerable conditions. This guy had way too low a flash point, but as the government becomes more and more overweening, more and more people are going to get pushed over the edge.

850 posted on 01/29/2007 11:15:17 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Luis Gonzalez; y'all; higgmeister; UpAllNight
Exactly. An honorable man would-[could] have fired warning shots, ran them off his land, and then tried to justify his action.

And when they returned?

When they returned he would have had a bully pulpit [just as Koresh had at Waco] to justify his action.

Remember every action at any level of government on a citizen is potentially lethal force. If an individual resists, the response will escalate to the point where he must be taken away in chains or someone is harmed by his effort of resistance.

Yep, Koresh had his options, -- so did Watson. They both chose death.

Our existence carries a social contract that should be secured by the Rule of Law; whereas nowadays we progressively appear to be be enslaved by Mob Rule and survival of the fittest.

Well put. Our constitutional social contract should indeed be secured by the rule of law.
Watson insisted that ~his~ rules over his property trumped our rule of law.
Luis Gonzalez insists that ~his~ rules over his property trumps our rule of law about carrying arms in vehicles.
Upallnight agrees with luis.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify my position.

851 posted on 01/29/2007 11:16:47 AM PST by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia <)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

The worst offender is property tax which takes your house a little at a time. If your tax is at 10%, the government has seized your whole house in 10 years.
Since the government left you with the snow and the grass and the hedges and the new roofs it hopes that we don't notice that it is gradually taking our house.





If you don't feel you are getting adequate roads, streetlights, etc. for your tax dollars, then vote differently or run for local office yourself. But note, roads don't repair themselves, cops and firemen don't do their jobs as hobbies and power companies don't give away electricity for free.


852 posted on 01/29/2007 11:17:30 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

--If your tax is at 10%, the government has seized your whole house in 10 years.--

Where is the property tax 10%? We are paying less in property taxes than than inflation and our home value is increasing faster than inflation, partly because of the facilities in the community that are paid for by our property taxes.


853 posted on 01/29/2007 11:18:46 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: from occupied ga

JR's words. If you interpret them as supporting Castro, you are an idiot.

"Free Republic does not advocate violence, rebellion, secession, or an overthrow of the government."


854 posted on 01/29/2007 11:21:01 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: tpaine

I looked up stories on this on Nexis to find out more about it. This happened back in 2000, and Garry Watson's middle name was DeWAYNE, which seems to fit well with the prevailing theory about men with WAYNE in their names ending badly.


855 posted on 01/29/2007 11:21:28 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: tpaine
"Actually, millions of us, -- and the NRA, - are demanding..." -- tpaine

"I fight against majority rule"

1,192 posted on 12/11/2006 11:11:25 AM EST by tpaine

Such a two-faced Marxist.

856 posted on 01/29/2007 11:21:46 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: tpaine

--Thanks for the opportunity to clarify my position.---

Go ahead. Make MY day. Answer the question and close it with "Thanks for the opportunity to clarify my position."

I would be a happy camper!


857 posted on 01/29/2007 11:22:52 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: UpAllNight
JR's words. If you interpret them as supporting Castro, you are an idiot.

You just can't post without resorting to insults can you?

858 posted on 01/29/2007 11:23:27 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: linda_22003

--I looked up stories on this on Nexis to find out more about it. This happened back in 2000, and Garry Watson's middle name was DeWAYNE, which seems to fit well with the prevailing theory about men with WAYNE in their names ending badly.--

My mean older cousin was named Wayne. His father was an ATC. He became an ATC but went out on strike under Reagan. His father said he was crazy. Next thing you know, he is selling insurance.


859 posted on 01/29/2007 11:24:42 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: tpaine
"Actually, millions of us, -- and the NRA, - are demanding..." -- tpaine

"I fight against majority rule"

1,192 posted on 12/11/2006 11:11:25 AM EST by tpaine

Such a two-faced Marxist.

"That's foolish hyperbole."

"Nothing in that contract, or in common or constitutional law, gives that homeowner the right to infringe on my right to carry that shotgun in my truck, just like the rest of my tools." -- tpaine

"The owner is obligated to honor all of our constitutional law on his property." -- tpaine

Property thief.

860 posted on 01/29/2007 11:27:09 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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