Posted on 01/27/2007 1:36:11 PM PST by tpaine
Having fun yet? And folks wonder why some tourists are afraid to travel into middle America.
I know none of this makes sense, just hoping you would clear it up.
Why should I help clear up your nonsense, -- your credibility, when you're attacking mine?
-- You really do need professional help. -- You're attacking most everyone on this thread over nitpicking details.
This was fun at first. You are just nagging now.
Bye.
--Why should I help clear up your nonsense, -- your credibility, when you're attacking mine?--
I am not attacking your credibility. I was just reminding you that failing to clarify your position hurts your credibility. Is it that you have no reasonable response to such a simple question?
After review, do you still support the GA bill?
--You're attacking most everyone on this thread over nitpicking details.--
You are the one that called me a gun-grabber. That is not a nitpicking detail.
Second, it's not that I lack faith in my government. I recognize its limitations and what it can and will do. I live out in the country and experience an ice storm several years ago. No power for four days. Other communities went a week or more. I am not relying on government to help me in case that happens again. I have two generators and keep a stock of gas around in case I need it.
No, I do not want to live in North Korea. I have travelled around the world while I served 18 years in the U.S. Navy and nothing compares to how good we have it here. But that does not mean the government is not inept. That it is not corrupt. That it is incapable of protecting you. That saying so to others should be a warning to others so that they can be prepared to help themselves.
Also, what is your problem with jumping on others on this thread?
Difference between the police and the military. The police in spite of their rhetoric about putting their lives on the line every day, don't really expect to come under serious fire.
And when they returned?
Remember every action at any level of government on a citizen is potentially lethal force. If an individual resists, the response will escalate to the point where he must be taken away in chains or someone is harmed by his effort of resistance.
Our existence carries a social contract that should be secured by the Rule of Law; whereas nowadays we progressively appear to be be enslaved by Mob Rule and survival of the fittest.
Yes and yes. I don't think anyone meant otherwise; however, it's what pushed him over the edge that VS was decrying.
I agree. With one caveat. It is apparent from the information at hand that the City had a valid easement, which is, after all, a contractual property right in and of itself. He had no "property" right to control improvements to the easement or access to the easement, his convictions notwithstanding. Rather akin to his murdering his neighbors because they ruined his view by painting their house the wrong color. I seriously doubt anyone would defend that action on the basis that he was "protecting his property rights" and was "pushed to his limits."
I gave you a reasonable response back at # 321; -- You wrote:
That should have been clear from my post on my position much earlier before I had read the bill. I have been totally consistent on this.
Here's where you were unclear. I asked:
Do you have the right to carry a gun in a vehicle?
I have the right to carry a gun in my vehicle. I do not have the right to tresspass another's premises with my gun in my vehicle.
Clever non-answer. -- You are not trespassing - you are an employee with a right to carry a gun in your vehicle, -- as you admit.
-- The question remains, does your employers attempt to prohibit arms in vehicles meet with your approval?
You said you agreed with the GA bill.
Given that, one can infer that you agree with my employer's right to prohibit uncontrolled guns on his property.
Daffy "inference", as the GA bill agrees that an employee has a right to carry arms in his vehicle.
-- The question remains, does your employers attempt to prohibit arms in vehicles meet with your approval?
---Also, what is your problem with jumping on others on this thread?---
Because so many here have advocated that we should kill the 'little hitlers' that run our government. Burns me up that there are posters here advocating murder and worshipping murderers.
So in your opinion armed rebellion is never justified, or just not justified here and now?
As I said before, it is consistent with my published position (from which I have not wavered) and it is consistent with the GA bill you referred to AND which you sayyou approved of. NOW, the question remains,
After review, do you STILL approve of the GA bill?
We are defenseless against their mighty backhoes!
--So in your opinion armed rebellion is never justified, or just not justified here and now?--
There have been several earlier posts in which I discussed with some others the difference between armed rebellion and murder and that it seemed a lot of posters couldn't differentiate between the two.
-- I don't think anyone meant otherwise; however, it's what pushed him over the edge that VS was decrying.--
The county trying to make their sewage system functional pushed him over the edge?
When you stop being deliberatly obtuse let me know.
"Because so many here have advocated that we should kill the 'little hitlers' that run our government. Burns me up that there are posters here advocating murder and worshipping murderers."
Not jumping into the fray here, but a mention of something one of our Founding Fathers once said.
The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.
Those words are as true today as they were when first spoken.
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