Posted on 01/27/2007 1:36:11 PM PST by tpaine
"What right do you have to trespass on HIS property? Get real."
Your ability to stay on topic and maintain relevancy is amazing.
--It's an observation. --
But not based on what he has posted. What were you observing?
OTOH, my question was based on your posts indicating that the employee's rights superceeded the rights of the employer.
--Your ability to stay on topic and maintain relevancy is amazing.--
Thank you.
--What's the next step?--
Elections. But that is too frustrating for the anarchists among us.
Red herring removed.
He had already fixed the one problem before the shooting, and the city wouldn't compensate him for it. Now, if there truly were other problems to be fixed (and we don't know this from the information in the article), what steps did the city take to notify the Watsons prior to starting work? Did they maybe show up unannounced on the Watsons' doorstep on occasions before the shooting, with a backhoe and a crew ready to go at it? Did he maybe tell them, on these occasions, to go away, that he was tired of their sh** (no pun intended)? Is this maybe why the city sent a cop with the crew on the day of the shooting? I don't know from the info in the article, and neither do you. If this was the case, maybe he should have gotten a lawyer involved long before the situation came to a head, but that's water under the bridge.
That said, I reaffirm my original position that, given the facts I gleaned from the article, he had every right to defend his property. Maybe he didn't do it the right way, and should have thought about it a little more. However, if there was a history of harassment on the part of the city against Mr. Watson (as the neighbor stated in the article), maybe he had thought about it.
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No they did not. They began when various States passed CCW laws and it was noted by grabber types in mangement, that some employees traditionally carried rifles and shotguns in their vehicles. Their efforts are intended to deny the rights of their employees.
He absolutely committed murder. That's absolutely the wrong way to handle it. So, he absolutely didn't do it the right way.
--Both parties were absolutists about their imagined powers...Nor does administrating our laws give you godlike powers over your peers.--
What is "godlike" about trying to use a legal easement in the maintenance of the system for which that easement was legally granted?
OBTW, you keep ducking my earlier concern where you called me a gun-grabber for agreeing with the GA bill. Does that mean you have retracted your support for the GA bill?
--No they did not. They began when various States passed CCW laws and it was noted by grabber types in mangement, that some employees traditionally carried rifles and shotguns in their vehicles. Their efforts are intended to deny the rights of their employees.--
The first case that hit the national scene was about guys that were showing off their firearms in the parking lot. I am not trying to debate the legality of their actions in this post, merely pointing out that it was a non-issue to their employer till they took them OUT of the trunk.
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--That said, I reaffirm my original position that, given the facts I gleaned from the article, he had every right to defend his property.--
You justify murder when they had the legal right to use their legally granted easement? Sad, very sad.
Even sadder, you support murder based on the 'facts' you refer which are the ramblings of a libertarian columnist often not supported by news articles written at the time.
--Whatever. I have made nothing up, --
Oh. Please reference where you got the information about the smelly raw sewage leaking all over his yard.
--Maybe with a little more time on this forum (UpAllNight, since Nov. 3, 2006)--
I been around here long enough to know that when one starts losing, they,
1) Call you a newbie
and if that doesn't work
2) call you a troll.
You miss the point. This guy is the libertarian anarchists' hero
Right. My mistake.
--You, OTOH, seem hellbent on using diversions --
My only diversion was to bring you back to the truth.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! In the suit my family is fighting right now, there have been occasions where my less rational side would have surely enjoyed choking the living crap out of a certain smarmy defense attorney, or a certain lazy, good-fo-nothing state's attorney. Fortunately, better judgment has prevailed over me and my family members.
Are you familiar with the Donald Scott case? What is your opinion of that matter?
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-- I have debated far better than you, sir/ma'am. --
Your main point in this debate was: this guy was justified in killing them since he had raw sewage leaking all over his yard and they wouldn't fix it.
FACT: You cannot source that he had raw sewage leaking all over his yard nor would they not fix the problem.
ERGO, your whole position fall completely apart thus you make an exit through the side door.
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--having just had to fork out a chunk of money to fix something that wasn't his responsibility,--
Please cite your reference for this.
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