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Illegal immigrants and their open-air church evicted from wealthy San Diego-area canyons (boo-hoo)
North County Times ^ | December 23, 2006 | ELLIOT SPAGAT

Posted on 12/24/2006 5:26:08 AM PST by radar101

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1 posted on 12/24/2006 5:26:12 AM PST by radar101
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To: radar101
The priest told his parishioners at the recent Mass that he would follow them.

Why I do not go the Mass anymore.

2 posted on 12/24/2006 5:27:21 AM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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Canyons are wealthy. Who knew.


3 posted on 12/24/2006 5:28:38 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: radar101
----Some decided to chip in about $100 a month to share an apartment, but Juan Ramirez said that would mean less money to send home to his wife and three children in Mexico.----

Oh well.

4 posted on 12/24/2006 5:29:36 AM PST by carolinalivin
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To: radar101

Nothing in the article about a plan to deport illegal aliens.


5 posted on 12/24/2006 5:34:45 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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...Some decided to chip in about $100 a month to share an apartment, but Juan Ramirez said that would mean less money to send home to his wife and three children in Mexico. "My children are studying, and they need pencils.

Oh boy, this article is a 'two-fer'........

And.......

7 posted on 12/24/2006 5:52:38 AM PST by Condor51 (Mayor Daley (D-Chi) For POTUS . Really, why not? He's more conservative than Rudy!)
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oh well that wont be in the ASG (american secuirty group) report either.


8 posted on 12/24/2006 5:53:28 AM PST by Kewlhand`tek (When you take things in backwards, everything comes out backwards.---Savage)
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It was and is amazing to me that the county tolerates these squater camps while at the same time enforcing expensive permits and rules on legal citizens. All this for cheap cabbage? Importing the worst of a third world country?
Talk radio and some TV finally put a stop to this camp..what about the others?


9 posted on 12/24/2006 6:09:25 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: radar101

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1757899/posts


10 posted on 12/24/2006 6:11:29 AM PST by upchuck (How to win the WOT? Simple: set our rules of engagement to at least match those of our enemy.)
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To: radar101

The Church is not in the business of judging these people. The Church is in the business of saving souls. Iam quite as anti-illegal as you and probably ready for more drastic steps against the problem than most other folks but the Church, in seeking out its children is not part of the problem. It is not in the political business.


11 posted on 12/24/2006 6:11:32 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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Homeowner Julie Adams, an outspoken critic of the squatters, said the huts pose fire and safety risks.

Come on, Julie, say what you really mean. You don't unwashed hordes of illegals ruining your property nor do you want to run the risk of them attacking your or your children. It's okay to say it.

12 posted on 12/24/2006 6:29:45 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: radar101
Capt. Boyd Long said, "This is just scratching the surface of a much bigger problem: immigration

Captain, this is not immigration, this is an invasion.
Immigration involves a passport and an approved visa.

13 posted on 12/24/2006 6:37:12 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: radar101
"We're wandering pilgrims once again," Monsignor Frank Fawcett ...

Boo hoo. Go back home and you won't be wandering anymore.

14 posted on 12/24/2006 6:49:49 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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the article mentions the mud...how about all the filth/litter/crap...etc.. that these illegals bring...they don't clean up and who becomes responsible.....

Can you iamgine the stench? They can't have any facilites there. It's got to be a huge health hazard. And I'll be the illegals are just the quietest neighbors you ever had, too.

15 posted on 12/24/2006 6:53:29 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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"My children are studying, and they need pencils. They don't have enough money," he said. Ramirez makes $6.75 an hour plucking tomatoes six days a week, and sends two-thirds of his wages to his family while he sleeps under a tarp tied to trees.
...........
Studying to violate the U.S. border like dad did?
Let's say a legitimate citizen of this country set up camp and was enjoying the outdoors. He or she would be run out of there in a minute, likely with a costly citation.


16 posted on 12/24/2006 6:54:20 AM PST by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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"It is not in the political business."

Actually, the Church's demands we change or ignore our laws most certainly IS getting involved in "political business".


17 posted on 12/24/2006 7:41:40 AM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Oldexpat
It was and is amazing to me that the county tolerates these squater camps while at the same time enforcing expensive permits and rules on legal citizens.

It is rather mind-numbing, isn't it. I don't remember if the city of San Diego ever razed this encampment in 2003 or not.

Migrant camps to be razed near Rancho Penasquitos
December 24, 2003

Though many migrant workers did not know it this week, city workers are preparing to evict them and raze their makeshift camps at McGonigle Canyon near Rancho Penasquitos.

San Diego police Officer Boris Martinez, the department's migrant liaison officer, said Tuesday that there have been complaints from neighbors about people living in the canyon. Martinez said he has notified Mexican Consul officials about the forthcoming evictions.

Although the date has not been set, Martinez said the men would be notified in writing and will be given about a week to move out of the camps. The city will then have the camps razed and removed, he said.

SNIP

McGonigle Canyon, which falls within the jurisdiction of the city of San Diego, has been home to migrant workers over decades.

In the late 1980s, entire families lived in holes dug in the ground or shacks made out of wood and plastic tarp. In the mid-1990s, most of the families were moved out of the camps and into apartments by Community Housing Works, then called Community Housing of North County, an Escondido-based, nonprofit housing developer.

SNIP


18 posted on 12/24/2006 7:42:34 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: radar101
"My children are studying, and they need pencils. They don't have enough money," he said. Ramirez makes $6.75 an hour plucking tomatoes six days a week, and sends two-thirds of his wages to his family while he sleeps under a tarp tied to trees. It's a slim return on the $2,000 he paid a smuggler to sneak him across the border last summer.

Time to do the math ...

$6.75 (no taxes taken out) * 10 hours per day ($67.50) * 6 days per week ($405) * 4 weeks/month = $1620 or so per month.

His family gets 2/3rds or about $1000 per month, which in Mexico is a FORTUNE.

Assuming he worked 6 months so far, he has earned 6 * 1620 = $9720 with virtually no expenses other than food. That is a pretty good return on $2000 in smuggler expenses. He has already sent back as least $6,000 to his family.

19 posted on 12/24/2006 7:43:25 AM PST by ikka
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To: upchuck
This was a banner item in the San Diego Area papers.
I go online looking for a photo.
There are about 400 newspapers and TV Stations carrying this story.

If you read it, the story is exactly the same in all 400 outlets.

20 posted on 12/24/2006 7:47:35 AM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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