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Nevada seeks to nix govt nuclear waste storage plan
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 12/22/06 | Tom Doggett

Posted on 12/22/2006 10:38:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: kinoxi

I don't have the time to make dealing with the Nuclear "waste" issue my life's work.

I note that Nevada was chosen only due to it's lack of congressional representation and electoral college votes at the time the decision was made, hardly a scientific basis.
The legislation was very properly called the "Screw Nevada" bill, in any genuine effort at determining the "Best" location MORE THAN ONE SITE would be studied!

The most interesting experimental alternative that I am aware of involves irradiating the "Waste", which accomplishes three things.
1. It reduces the half-life dramatically.
2. It produces heat, which can be used to generate power.
3. It can be implemented at existing power plants, making transport of the "hot" waste unnecessary.
Sorry I forgot what type of irradiation was used, it's been a while since I read up on the subject.

Of course this is just one more "Lab Experiment" that shows promise, so gets no significant funding from the NRC or our Gov. Org.
To my knowledge it has not been disproved, our Governor-Elect was very interested in it, maybe as Governor he can get some positive action taken?

I also recall there is a proven reprocessing technology that we are prevented from employing by some damn Jimmah Carter era treaty.
Technology that several other countries use, France and England for example, possibly Japan as well.

I am tired of 49 states, GE, the NRC, and a disappointing number of Freepers piling on to shove it down Nevada's throat without any consideration of just how Nevada was chosen, the constitutional issues involved, or any open-mindednes on alternatives.


41 posted on 12/23/2006 12:51:46 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA
The legislation was very properly called the "Screw Nevada" bill, in any genuine effort at determining the "Best" location MORE THAN ONE SITE would be studied!

More than one site was studied. Why do you believe the Washington, and Texas sites were not chosen?
42 posted on 12/23/2006 12:55:14 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: ReignOfError
"No one but Uncle Sam owns any land around there. It's wedged between the Nevada (nuclear) Test Site and the Nellis Air Force Range."

Correcto. And they have already blown off a cupla hunnert ZOTs in the zone. Area 51 isn't far, either.

PS - It's federal land. Nevada gets no rent, but lotsa jobs from this about $10 billion project. Yep, working all over Yucca mountain without even tinfoil hats for protection.

yitbos

43 posted on 12/23/2006 12:59:20 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: kinoxi

If we tell Teddy it's better than Viagra can we store it at his house?

The entire idea of simply throwing it down a high-tech hole to be forgotten disgust me. No matter where the hole is located.

This particular location, near several fault zones, not that distant from a major population center, with geologically recent water flow, chosen much more for political reasons than scientific, etc. is an insult to every U.S. citizen of any integrity.

The money wasted on Yucca should have been spent researching better solutions, the Irradiation technique I posted on another reply is particularly interesting as it not only disposes of the "waste" but also produces power, at the current sites.


44 posted on 12/23/2006 1:00:45 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA

Do you propose an alternative that I can respond to or are you just whining because you lose?


45 posted on 12/23/2006 1:02:41 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Richard-SIA

I wouldn't want it near me either. It has to go somewhere though.


46 posted on 12/23/2006 1:08:14 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

You do know that Yucca is being built under the guise of continued "Study"?

Token "studies" in other states were only window dressing.

No other site was ever seriously considered, for political considerations.
Nevada only had ONE congressman at the time, and less than a million residents.
Too few to make a difference to Washington, so it was "Screw Nevada" time.

Population shift has begun to give Nevada some clout, the irregularities in the NRC reports and their shifting standards* have cast the entire project into disrepute, Dingy Harry knows he has to make a show of fighting Yucca for his political future.
There is actually a very good chance Yucca will never happen.

* They keep changing the requirements for certification to fit what is found on site, instead of a set of fixed rules for certification, which the site cannot meet.


47 posted on 12/23/2006 1:10:32 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: FreedomPoster

Tell that to the "Down-Winder's", if you can find any still alive.
You may have to talk to their grandchildren.


48 posted on 12/23/2006 1:12:24 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA

I don't understand your vehement objection to this. I need more info to do that. I'm not attacking your beliefs I simply don't understand your hatred for this project.


49 posted on 12/23/2006 1:14:27 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Richard-SIA
"Nevada only had ONE congressman at the time, and less than a million residents. "

When a nuke waste repository was first proposed for Nevada, there were towns begging for it to be built near them.

yitbos

50 posted on 12/23/2006 1:20:36 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: kinoxi

It needs to "go" into a much more responsible process than simply throwing it down a hole for the next several centuries.

Other countries get to reprocess it and reuse it, but we don't due to a treaty that probably needs to be voided.

The companies and Gov. Org. that own the "waste" refuse to allow Nevada to claim title to it as a condition of allowing the Yucca site to be built.
If it's "Waste" and they dump it in our state why shouldn't we get title to it?

They want to exploit Nevada for their profit, but do not want Nevada to be able to exploit the "waste" for Nevada's possible future profit!


51 posted on 12/23/2006 1:25:23 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA
they dump it in our state why shouldn't we get title to it?

That would make you an independent nation.
52 posted on 12/23/2006 1:32:51 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Please peruse my prior replies, Yucca disgust me on several grounds.

Morally, it's contemptible, on many levels, for many reasons.
Scientifically, it's garbage.
The NRC keeps changing the standards to fit the site, as the site fails the original standards.
The proposed site is way too small to handle the waste already produced, so if it were approved tomorrow they would have to build another some where, or expand the current site several fold!

Another solution needs to be found, and I have no doubt that another solution would be found if the NRC were not so Pig headed, insisting that Yucca is the only possible answer.


53 posted on 12/23/2006 1:37:31 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: bruinbirdman

Yes, sure, and Cocaine was a major component of Coca-Cola at one time too.

Ignorance and greed do not necessarily make for good policy decisions.


54 posted on 12/23/2006 1:39:29 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA

Can you name one realistic alternative?


55 posted on 12/23/2006 1:40:40 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

"The alternative is what?"

Why not drill a big hole in Dulce NM and fill up some of those darned alien subterranean bases filled with man eating lizards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.....just a thought.


56 posted on 12/23/2006 1:48:27 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: kinoxi

Huh?

What is being disposed of, er ah, "stored" as "waste" is not weapons grade fissionable material.
It could probably be used to make "Dirty Bombs", but not to make Nukes.
A lot of industrial radio-active's which are only loosely controlled could probably be used to make some sort of "Dirty Bomb" too.
Your local hospital is not a sovereign nation despite possessing much more pure material than what is intended for the Yucca site.
Or is it a matter of volume?


57 posted on 12/23/2006 1:49:09 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: taxed2death

Yes, they have been asking for it haven't they...


58 posted on 12/23/2006 1:50:11 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Richard-SIA

Where do you propose the material should be stored?


59 posted on 12/23/2006 1:51:22 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Richard-SIA

Read post #2 on this thread.


60 posted on 12/23/2006 1:52:06 AM PST by kinoxi
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