Squad Leader Key to Haditha Case [New Details]

Associated Press ^ | December 21, 2006

[68skylark]

It is indeed a bad situation. It will be a little better when both sides present their evidence.

Mostly, I'm sorry that this issue is distracting people from the good work and heroism of our troops fighting overseas -- there are so many thousands who do their job every day, under difficult circumstances. They deserve more notice and attention.

[RedRover]

Mostly, I'm sorry that this issue is distracting people from the good work and heroism of our troops fighting overseas...

Big bump that, sky. And, if I can put in a plug for another Freeper, I'd encourage people to get on SandRat's ping list for war news you'll only find on FR.

Judging from your screen name, 68skylark, you and I are about the same age. No need to remind either of us about the anti-military horrors of the '60s and '70s. I see it coming again and hate it beyond words.

[RedRover]

Corporal (now Sergeant) Sanick Dela Cruz, 24, of Chicago, Illinois

[montag813]

We killed 100,000 Tokyo civilians in a single night in May 1945. Anyone recall FDR or (SecWar) Stimson bringing the pilots up on murder charges? This is WARTIME. Americans have no idea how many French, Arab and other civilians were killed by our troops during the course of WWII fighting (thousands). The fact that we keep charging our men with all manner of crimes against the enemy in the middle of wartime illustrates how pathetically weak we have become as a nation, as a result of 40 years of liberal decay.

[montag813]

I hate to say this, but unless the media and the administration let our forces do their job..we need to pull our troops out. We will not win.

We cannot win with such pathetic faggots leading us. And the President allowed it all. From Abu Ghraib to Haditha. Absolutely pathetic weakness at the highest levels. Pray for our nation.

[SandRat]

Thank you for the referral. Just doing my duty is all.

[RedRover]

Liberal decay is key. We didn't have a morally-relative, lickspittle media during WW2.

Gen. Bradley was slow to close the Falaise Gap for military reasons. Today, it'd be because CNN is broadcasting it live.

[jazusamo]

Agreed, skylark.

It is so frustrating the way this unfolded with Murtha and the media basically convicting these Marines months before an investigation was even completed.

They believed everything that was coming from an terrorist insurgent controlled town and practically nothing from our Marines who were there.

I believe a lot of what is said on these threads is venting by people who can do nothing else but want to support these Marines in some way and they and their families deserve that support. I know I am guilty of that myself at times.

[CottShop]

no sir there has already been a verdict- for crying out loud- the paper this am said "Military sets an example" - the soldiers have already been convicted in the public eye! http://sacredscoop.com

[Cheburashka]

According to all the drive-by media you're a racist-bigot-sexist-homophobe. (As am I, of course) Do you care?

The only verdict that matters is the one handed down by the court martial.

[Godwin1]

Actually the "key" in this case is the clique of cowardly careerist general officers that is stabbing these boys in the back in order to grovel before the likes of Murtha and the liberal media. This is the most disgraceful performance by senior American military officers in memory. No young person should join or reenlist in the Corps while this spineless leadership cadre remains on scene.
Haditha was AT WORST, a tragic error committed in the heat of combat and the fog of war. It's also possible that the "victims" were terrorists dressed as civilians, or civilians killed by the enemy. In any case these boys deserve the benefit of the doubt and the thanks of a grateful nation. Instead they are being betrayed.

[Godwin1]

Actually the "key" in this case is the clique of cowardly careerist general officers that is stabbing these boys in the back in order to grovel before the likes of Murtha and the liberal media. This is the most disgraceful performance by senior American military officers in memory. No young person should join or reenlist in the Corps while this spineless leadership cadre remains on scene.
Haditha was AT WORST, a tragic error committed in the heat of combat and the fog of war. It's also possible that the "victims" were terrorists dressed as civilians, or civilians killed by the enemy. In any case these boys deserve the benefit of the doubt and the thanks of a grateful nation. Instead they are being betrayed.

[American72]

Post by BnBlFlag signed on to American72's computer.

Speaking as a former Marine, the now PC marine Corps can kiss my ass. The death knell of a once great organization. I would not advise any young man to join any of the Services today.
Lets get soft and cuddly with the enemy and send our guys to Leavenworth for life.
And btw, Bush can also kiss my ass.
Bring our troops home now. They are dieing for a Utopian "democratic" Middle East which will never happen without a ruthless and merciless War to the finish. And I'm not sure it could happen then.
It's the Muzzie Religeon, stupid.

[RedRover]

Here's a link to the latest post: Haditha defense seen focused on Iraq battle chaos from Reuters.

As mentioned, we're using the main Haditha thread for new items that give fresh details or insight but may not merit their own thread. This way, we can stay up-to-date without having a hundred small threads.

[verity]

Glad to see you have a sense of humor in addition to your candor. lol

Here is a procedural reference for you. http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/law/mcm.pdf

[berdie]

I sometimes misspeak (or mistype, in this instance) when I am passionate about a subject. Thanks for the correction.

[RedRover]

Thanks, verity!