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Pyramids were built with concrete rather than rocks, scientists claim
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Posted on 12/01/2006 3:55:23 PM PST by Rodney King
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To: Theo
The large structures (including pyramids) constructed during the time of Israelite servitude in Egypt were made of mud brick, and in the case of those pyramids, were built in the Fayyum. Mud bricks do use straw.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:11:39 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
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To: GSlob
Speaking of straw, your talk about lime kilns is a straw man argument. Nowhere in the article is there any mention of lime kilns.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:13:33 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
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They also say that the diverse shapes of the stones show that moulds were not used.
Non-sequiturs make me eat lampshades.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:15:29 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
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To: Rodney King
I still think the space aliens helped build the pyramids.
toungue in cheek while scurrring off.
Ooops, he said 1 million, not 500,000, but this is substantially less than the real total. :')
Great Pyramid's Stones Counted
by Jennifer Viegas
Discovery News
December 2002
A new study conducted by the Supreme Council for Antiquities in Egypt has determined that the Great Pyramid of Khufu at Giza consists of one million limestone rocks.
The number is under half of the previously estimated amount of 2.3 million stones, indicating that the Egyptian pyramid builders were even more organized and efficient than previously thought.
Zahi Hawass, secretary general of the Supreme Council, said that the Great Pyramid was considered to be a national project that all Egyptians took part in, according to an Egyptian State Information Service report last week. The report also mentioned that Hawass and his team analyzed the administrative organization and work scheme used in the construction of the 450-foot tall monument.
In the
Fall 2002 issue of
KMT Anthony P. Sakovich showed his systematic approach to estimating the number of stones (some larger, some smaller) in the Khufu pyramid, arrived at a figure of 4 million, and Zahi's response was to say that Khufu's consisted of perhaps one million stones, and each was, on average, less than 2 tons each.
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posted on
12/01/2006 10:59:46 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
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posted on
12/01/2006 11:03:29 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Then try to get the necessary amount of lime without kilns. Doing it in the open fires is so much less efficient that the amount of fuel required would need to be multiplied several fold. Besides, the pottery kilns had already been in existence, so the crude technology was available - but nowhere near the scale suggested.
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posted on
12/02/2006 12:11:34 AM PST
by
GSlob
To: Indy Pendance
'Heck, he should have ran for God." -Well, since he invented the Constitution, he ought by right to be listed among the Founders. The others were merely writing it down at his dictation.
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posted on
12/02/2006 12:28:12 AM PST
by
GSlob
To: somemoreequalthanothers
I find the building of the pyramids quite unbelievable. How did they feed all those people.
I know, it was Karl Rove's idea.
89
posted on
12/02/2006 12:30:39 AM PST
by
Loud Mime
(Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire)
To: TexasTransplant
If you tried to build any of them in California today with modern heavy equipment, good roads and a quarry next door it would take ten times longer (even after the paperwork and payoffs).
Behold the power of the construction trade unions, and despair!
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posted on
12/02/2006 12:33:29 AM PST
by
GSlob
To: Rodney King
Not concrete!
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posted on
12/02/2006 12:41:36 AM PST
by
Pro-Bush
(hater)
To: SunkenCiv
"Zahi "Zowie" Hawass also has claimed that the number of stones in the Great Pyramid (Khufu, a.k.a. Cheops) is more like 500,000, compared with 2.5 million which is commonly believed, or more than (I think it was) 4 million calculated by someone writing in KMT a few years ago. Hawass also claimed that the size of the stones is something like 1000 pounds each, instead of 2+ tons as is commonly thought. "
Cheops pyramid is 150m high, ca. 250m base side. Even in ancient Egypt, the geometry of solid bodies was the same. Pyramid volume = 250x250x150/3=3.125 million cubic meters. Limestone density [calcite] 2.7; could be a bit less if dolomites. at d 2.7 the pyramid weight is 8.43 million tons. Now, the pyramid is neither filled with air [there are chambers, but it is a mostly solid body], nor is it a small natural hill faced into a pyramid - it was piled up on a flat ground. So, with 500000 stones each less than a quarter of metric ton, the pyramid would be 125000 tons - and where's the rest of it? Zahi Hawass is a Zahi HawASS.
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posted on
12/02/2006 12:52:12 AM PST
by
GSlob
To: GSlob
Now, the pyramid is neither filled with air [there are chambers, but it is a mostly solid body], nor is it a small natural hill faced into a pyramid - it was piled up on a flat ground. Actually the pyramid was built over a small knoll. This will account for some of the pyramids volume.
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posted on
12/02/2006 2:04:07 AM PST
by
Straight Vermonter
(It takes a school to bankrupt a village.)
To: Straight Vermonter
they have a strange terrain there, then - flat saucer-like ground and few former knolls, close to one another, nowadays all made into large pyramids. And where are all the smaller knolls?
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posted on
12/02/2006 2:19:43 AM PST
by
GSlob
To: GSlob
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posted on
12/02/2006 5:25:47 AM PST
by
ASA Vet
(The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
To: WorkingClassFilth
Egyptians had war chariots - without wheels??
They had wheels in India at that time.
Maybe the Egyptians didn't have fire, either??
To: Pro-Bush
The man who holds back science.
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posted on
12/02/2006 5:57:35 AM PST
by
bmwcyle
(The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
To: Loud Mime
I find the building of the pyramids quite unbelievable. How did they feed all those people.I'm a builder by trade, and I have studied the detailed construction of the Great Pyramid (in print only). To have been built strictly with human labor is not possible. This becomes very clear when one considers the weights, dimensions, and accuracy involved.
I'm glad to see our good friend Zowie made it into the thread. He is the embodiment of mainstream disinformation.
To: Rodney King
This explains the decline and fall of the Egyptian empire. Their concrete masons went union.
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posted on
12/02/2006 6:58:05 AM PST
by
Ghengis
(Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
To: Rodney King
There was a good article once about a battery in ancient iraq... i posted it on FR I think. Could you possibly be less specific?
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posted on
12/02/2006 7:04:54 AM PST
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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