Posted on 12/01/2006 7:40:42 AM PST by ZGuy
My, my. What happend to all those broken glass republicans, the ones that castigated all us chicken little's on this forum that told you exactly what would happen in the last election.
Remember you told us (R) by the name was the only thing.
You make my point exactly: the fact that he was EASILY "mis-quoted" and thus rendered entirely impotent in the entire debate is why he is not a good spokesman.
OK then, explain why GW and Karl didn't figure this out. Instead they went about stomping on the base at every speach. That stratergy worked out so well for us. Not so sure that they considered it all that bad though.
1) every item in the Contract with America except term limits passed the house.
2) every item in the Contract except the two constitutional amendments became law within two years in some form.
3) the "embarassing" political losses of which you speak only occured in the Nov. 98 election -- and he had a lot of help in bringing those about... there is plenty of blame to go around on that one.
4) the drift of which you speak only came about, IMHO, after Gingrich was gone and Tom DeLay decided to spend his way into a permanent majority.
-- I could go on, but that's enough for a start
He's welcome to run. Perhaps he will "raise the level" of debate, perhaps not. More likely, his gaffes and misquoted comments will BECOME the subject of the debate, not "conservatism." And in that respect, he'll do far more harm than good.
Not looking for perfection, some semblance of fidelity indicates a strong character. Anyone can make a mistake, repetitive cheating on multiple wifes shows that he refused to change his behavior. I like newt, he is very smart and is a patriot, I just don't trust him and wouldn't want him as a President.
What planet are you on?
Thanks for that nugget.
He won't feel better 'til he's all only in the room by himself -- and he'll still be suspicious
the Speaker of the House has nothing to do with the judicial confirmation process...
BUMP!
Any politician in America can be eailsy mis-quoted if the press decides it just going to be sloppy -- you're making up reasons trying to sound smart. He was not rendered impotent -- in fact, his side prevailed. If you think he's not a good spokesman you don't know what a good spokesman is, IMHO.
Notice how acceptable these things are when they fit the purpose of those that still worship GW and Rove. They called it compromise and declared it was always necessary. Oh well, things change I guess.
I'm just saying to all the Newt haters if he is that bad why not throw him out of the republican party they should start a paper drive
The planet of reality.
In an alternative universe if you think McCain and Gingrich are two peas out of the same pod... you don't have to like either of them -- that's your right -- but for heaven's sake at least pay attention.
I would be willing that not a single freeper that warned of the coming defeat, voted for a Dem over a RINO, but it made no difference.
I clearly and often warned that this was coming and that the blame lay at the feet of GW and Karl Rove. You can blame whomever you want, but that won't change a thing.
The embarrassing political losses of which I speak are things like Gingrich's disastrous "Government Shutdown of '95" (which also had the incidental effect of getting Monica and Slick together); getting his ass kicked on Medicare reform; getting rolled several times in making budget deals; and generally making himself the issue for the 1996 election; and so on. Clinton was on the ropes after the '94 elections; Newt handed everything back to him, and more.
Gingrich was a disaster as Speaker.
Amen.
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