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Gingrich Sees Dark Days Ahead for GOP
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| Robert B. Bluey
Posted on 12/01/2006 7:40:42 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy
Perhaps VCAP should spend a little more time reflecting on how their efforts [or lack thereof] got James Webb elected to the United States Senate, before looking ahead to 2008.
Has Newt opined on that question yet?
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:07:37 AM PST
by
mac_truck
( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
To: Reagan Man
He's in bed with a very slimy, left-wing politician on "health transformation." Key quote from the link:
"and that money, properly saved, should be used to get to a system in which every American has access to insurance and in which we have an expectation that every American has insurance, which is an equally important problem."
Who is going to "get to a system in which every American has insurance?" The government? Is this not universal health care?
http://www.healthtransformation.net/News/Press_Releases/835.cfm
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:09:05 AM PST
by
Cecily
(`)
To: PDR
It ain't Newt. Above and beyond the fact that the Christian right would have SERIOUS reservations about him---and remember, many of them stayed home in November---he has very real and serious tactical problems that were evidenced in the 1990s as Speaker.
Newt is a born teacher. That's good in some lines of work, but when running for the presidency, that is a disaster waiting to happen: he over-talks, over-explains, and opens himself up to major gaffes. (Remember the "whither on the vine" comment? That was just one example of what he would do every week on the campaign trail.)
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:10:32 AM PST
by
LS
To: Princip. Conservative
How about we throw Newt out of the Republican party would that make you feel better?
To: Kenny Bunk
If nothing else, it alienates all the people of principle who think you shouldn't violate Reagan's 11th commandment. But I have a bigger concern about Newt, and that is his propensity to "teach" and to therefore blab in such a way that he opens himself to major gaffes (such as the "whither on the vine" line over Medicare). Look at Reagan. He "taught" in very simple concepts and phrases. But Newt has a tendency to try to explain all the details, and on a campaign trail, that's a disaster.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:14:36 AM PST
by
LS
To: ZGuy
Tough talk but all true. It seems like the Bush Administration should be done licking their wounds and should begin to try to fight on new fronts.
Newt is definitely a voice that resonates but I don't know if he should be the '08 pick.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:14:42 AM PST
by
truthandlife
("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
To: shempy
I know it is upsetting to a lot of folks, but there really isn't a lot of good that Bush can do at this point. He can veto bad legislation and that is about it. He can't lower taxes, reduce the size of government, get conservatives on the bench, secure the border, etc.
He didn't do all of those when he had a Republican Congress, either.
In fact, the only one of those he did on his own was lower taxes. That and conservatives on the bench, but he had to have his feet held to the fire on that score....
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:14:58 AM PST
by
highball
(Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
To: tiger-one
Uh, in Iraq? Are you kidding? 45,000 terrorists killed, most of the terrorists in one spot, al-Qaeda virtually finished as an organizational force. That kind of success?
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:16:59 AM PST
by
LS
To: ZGuy
I wish that all the old washed up politico's in this country would just shut up.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:18:32 AM PST
by
exnavy
(God means love, not hate.)
To: Moose4
"I don't think he's electable (which is too bad), but as a behind-the-scenes "idea guy," he'd be fantastic."
Hmm... A pot smoking, draft dodging under indictment liberal from Arkansas became President and never even got 50% of the vote in two elections.
Given that history, it was no wonder that behavioral scientists knew something would happen. And it did. The pot smoking, draft dodging President soon became a disbarred, impeached and morally corrupt President.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:20:44 AM PST
by
EQAndyBuzz
("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
To: LS
If you think ANY Republican is going to get ANYWHERE being disloyal for the next two years, you missed the message of the election even more than I did.There are going to be a lot of folks who will simply refuse to understand this fact.
To: PDR
Don't get me wrong... I appreciate what Newt did in '94.
However, since then he's shown himself to not only have large feet of clay, but also be a co-conspirator with the Hildabeast.
Find someone else to promote.
P.S. And how do you feel about Newt's desire to constrain the First Amendment?
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:26:19 AM PST
by
StoneGiant
(Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
To: NordP
Newt's right, if Rove doesn't know it was a lack of representatives being actually conservative--not RINO, and immigration that lost these elections (and illegals and the dead voting)...then, Mr. Rove (as much as I admire you) you do need to go back to the private sector. You will be inundated with hate mail from thos on ths forum that still do not realize that GW was not the Second Coming.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:27:15 AM PST
by
itsahoot
(If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
To: LS
and it ain't Newt. NO? Whom do you suggets Jeb?
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:28:18 AM PST
by
itsahoot
(If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
To: ZGuy
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:29:08 AM PST
by
Gideon Reader
("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
To: itsahoot
No. Jeb won't do it, and the U.S. would not stand for another "dynasty" at this point, let alone another Bush. I'm still hoping we haven't seen the right guy or gal yet.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:31:06 AM PST
by
LS
To: Gideon Reader
He is, but that is precisely why he would detonate on the campaign trail. Geniuses tend to over-explain, and the more you say, the more likely you are to put your foot in your mouth. Remember "whither on the vine?"
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:32:26 AM PST
by
LS
To: LS; All
Success is not necessarily the key. Whether he gets the nomination or not, whether he ascends to the presidency or not is NOT the point.
Newt Gingrich is the best and possibly the ONLY person on the conservative side of current American Politics with the ability to explain the philosophy of conservatism in a coherent and clear manner, so it can be understood by the electorate on both sides of the political chasm, at all levels of understanding.
By doing so he(Newt) elevates the debate and shapes the arguments from BOTH sides. He forces response from the Left, and is able to challenge them regarding their stances and past performances, both of ideology and practicality.
Newts entry into the race may save some undeserving Republican politicians and cause the self destruction of some Democrat party pols. Regardless of the outcome, the Republican primary will be the best show in town and force a move toward old style traditional conservatism of the Goldwater kind, by wishy-washy Conservative wannabees who really do not understand the basic principals of self reliance, less and smaller government, strong military and all of the other trappings of conservative governmental style. His presence will also cure the constipation worries of the Democrat challengers who will have to face him in debate, head to head. I personally do NOT care about his peccadilloes, troubled mariages, or personal love interests. He says nothing about mine. I say nothing about his.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:46:48 AM PST
by
Gideon Reader
("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
To: LS
There is no evidence the Christian Right stayed home in November 2006. And the wither on the vine comment was a) mis-quoted and b) taken out of context beyond that.... the news organization that did even admitted it.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:47:16 AM PST
by
PDR
To: StoneGiant
waiting to hear what he has to say about himself -- not relying on a reporters version of the events.
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posted on
12/01/2006 9:48:07 AM PST
by
PDR
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