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Mafia Hit on the Media (Litvinenko and Berezovsky)
Atlantic Free Press ^ | 11/24/2006 | Copy Dude (John Weaver)

Posted on 11/30/2006 11:02:53 AM PST by GarySpFc

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To: GarySpFc
I think if you reread your post after tomorrows news you may decide to stand on your feet and not your hands because at present when you are in the toilet all that is coming out of your mouth is s***.
21 posted on 11/30/2006 12:12:05 PM PST by jerryem
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To: Slump Tester
I just reserved it at the library - thanks!

As you read it, know that I have a cat named Novichok. An OLD cat, mean as hell.

22 posted on 11/30/2006 12:16:08 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: struwwelpeter
Given Egor Gaidar's heroic genetic heritage, I wonder if he isn't faking it for a political comeback.

Now watch him go and die of Po-210 poisoning just to make me look bad ;-)

It is a good thing you did not post this shortly before April First, gospodin Struwwelpeter!

23 posted on 11/30/2006 12:19:12 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: archy

Barbara Streisand's in the Lyubyanka? I can't imagine what they're putting her through!
24 posted on 11/30/2006 12:32:23 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: GarySpFc

>Nope, Putin will not run for president.

What are you going to do when he does?


25 posted on 11/30/2006 1:23:59 PM PST by b2stealth
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KGB at work.. Gary you forgot to post this article from pravda.ru blaming USA for his death - How much did he know about British or US spy movements? Who could he incriminate? Why did the US authorities show so much interest in his case? ..
..But to blame Vladimir Putin... how about the fairies at the end of the garden, or Saddam Hussein’s WMD?

26 posted on 11/30/2006 1:35:46 PM PST by b2stealth
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To: struwwelpeter
About 20 years ago, during Gorby's "peaceful bear" posturing, the GRU (Soviet MI) shot a US liaison officer in East Germany. Kremlinologists went nuts trying to read between the lines on that one, and one theory was that Soviet general staff wasn't happy about "detente part two".

A few years before the USMLM officer was killed, while ex-KGB chief Andropov was trying to pass himself off as a peaceful admirer of Frank Sinatra and Johnny Walker Red, KAL 007 was shot down. That effectively ended the "peace offensive" back then. BTW: Andropov was Gorby's mentor.

Not quite so long ago: desantnik, General, and Hero of the Soviet Union Pavel Sergeyevich Grachev was accused of personal involvement in major military corruption scandals that occurred during the withdrawal of the Soviet troops from East Germany, and were the focus of a series of articles published by investigative journalist Dmitry Kholodov, who was killed by a suitcase bomb.

Gen Grachev was the overreacher who began the shooting in Chechnya when in 1994 claimed he could clear those raghead insurgents out *with just two regiments of paratroopers.* Two years later, the Russian army lost that war and Grachev lost his job as Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation, in June of 1996.

I'm beginning to smell Pavel Sergeyevich....

27 posted on 11/30/2006 2:28:33 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: b2stealth
Nope, Putin will not run for president.

What are you going to do when he does?

Not vote straight Democratic Party?

28 posted on 11/30/2006 2:29:34 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: GarySpFc
Sounds like an "oligarch" any chance he is tied to Soro's?
29 posted on 11/30/2006 2:33:55 PM PST by Dead Dog
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General Grachev is a character in his own right. Grani.ru has an interesting article by military journalist, Captain Vladimir Yermolin, on the origins of the Chechen conflict, with some insights into those forgotten days (written in 2004):
This devil-may-care assault on the city, without maps, without communications, without the necessary support, or even a concrete plan of action, can be considered the first act of the Chechen war, whose ten-year anniversary Russia needs to mark. Not simply because it will be the last such 'round number' anniversary of the present Chechen campaign. The result of that first attempt to solve the whole problem in one crushing blow, of this 'victorious' operation to introduce law and order onto Chechen soil, could clearly be seen in the frames of the burnt-out tanks, the disfigured corpses of the soldiers, the dirty, emaciated Russian prisoners with fatal melancholy in their eyes, the self-indulgence and illiteracy of the Arbat generals and their neglect of this human 'cannon fodder', and in the lies and treachery of our government officials.

When Minister of Defense Pavel Grachev, stared unblinkingly into the camera, he assured us that he did not know which soldiers they were trying to blame on the Russian Federation, these "unidentified objects" were sitting on television set right alongside us. They listened to their minister, as condemned men listen to last news about the refusal of a pardon. This was not a metaphor. The night before, Dudayev had declared: if Moscow did not acknowledge the captured tankers of its own, then they would be publicly executed. He reaffirmed this during his first meeting with Sergey Yushenkov and his associates. Someone asked him: "You wouldn't do this, would you?" Dudayev pointed out the window, where for the second day since our arrival in Grozniy a crowd numbering in the thousands danced and burned the air with their shouts. "If I don't execute them, they'll execute me with them," said the president of Chechnya with a smile.
Original in Russian here, English here
30 posted on 11/30/2006 2:44:55 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: archy

I read the book with my hair standing on end. It was a while ago; were these guys mentioned in Alibek's book?

(Also, because of him and other decent people of Kazakhstan I would never have spent money on the stupid Borat film. No one deserves their proud heritage mocked so crudely.)


31 posted on 11/30/2006 2:47:43 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: struwwelpeter
Barbara Streisand's in the Lyubyanka? I can't imagine what they're putting her through!


32 posted on 11/30/2006 3:08:16 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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(Also, because of him and other decent people of Kazakhstan I would never have spent money on the stupid Borat film. No one deserves their proud heritage mocked so crudely.)

Oh, we Americans mock ourselves pretty thoroughly, though the real Kazakhs remind me of some of our own Western characters more than mountain hillbillies.

But to have a transplanted Brit do it is pretty tacky, and I don't think he has the stones to try the same sort of thing with his little Muslim brothers. Of course if the appearance of *Borat, the Messenger of Allah* comes anytime soon, I'll happily go see it.

33 posted on 11/30/2006 3:14:27 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: GarySpFc

Russian Arkancide.


34 posted on 11/30/2006 8:51:26 PM PST by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GarySpFc; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
Alexander Litvinenko is simply the last in a long line of stiffs associated with Boris, a line of corpses that stretches back to the mid-nineties. One died from a mysterious nerve toxin applied to the rim of his coffee cup.

Good find!

35 posted on 12/02/2006 7:28:09 AM PST by A. Pole (Goya: "El sueno de la razon produce monstruos" (The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters))
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To: GarySpFc

I understand that Russia is trying to extradite Berezovsky.
This could all be an attempt to make Putin look bad so
he can stay in UK.

The handling of this Polonium is so sloppy it would hardly
be an FSB operation.


36 posted on 12/03/2006 5:30:28 PM PST by BlackJack (Jefferson "Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.")
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